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best workflow to control roll dynamics (snare roll, hihat roll, kick roll, etc...)
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golem
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Posted : Jan 28, 2014 02:30:01
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What do you think is the best workflow to control dynamics when you have such a drums where 95% of time you have basic non-changing drums (hihats, kicks), but now and then you have repeating rapid snares, kicks, hihats (1/16, 1/32 or triplets of those so pretty fast rolls).
I am just testing now, when I have mixed a hihat perfectly (it hits always when kick hits) but then when I make a roll of that hihat, it is far too loud.
1. do you make separate tracks for rolls?
2. do you just drop velocity of roll notes?
3. do you put limiter/compressor to catch dynamics changes in rolls?2
4. do you treat rolls differently (less reverb..?)
 
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Jan 28, 2014 02:38
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do whatever it takes to tame the dynamics (when you have 32ths etc). If needed all of your points. A separate track for roll notes espesscialy drum rolls could be a good solution. Don't know why less reverb, probably cuz I failed at using reverb at drums at all (imo it sounds shite and sucks when putting even the tiniest reveb on a kick - it looses punch anyways even if a bit), but if reverb on drums than exactly on drumrolls imo. Can come nice with panorama automation, flanger etc.
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Jan 28, 2014 06:24
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sometimes, provided you have your fades in place - to avoid clicks - I can place the sounds as I want, then merge it together and treat it as a separate audio file, maybe on another track, if I plan on making some filter automation on tops or something...
if it's just a simple roll, then just quick automation drawing so that volume doesn't rise (since I do most of drums in audio)... wouldn't put limiter there, nor compressor, just bring the volume down either by changing the gain if it's audio files, or channel volume with automation, or, yeah, velocity can do the trick if you're working with midi. check what volume it played before, then make sure it stays there...
4. yes, if you don't like it during the roll, then bring the send down with automation. every situation is it's own thing, adress it likewise, the sound of 32th kicks is not like 4/4 kicks, just think of what granular synthesis is, little pieces of the same thing can make very different stuff, so yeah, treat differently... sometimes even the EQ, since rolls can change frequency content a lot actually |
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Diagnosed Hippie
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Posted : Jan 28, 2014 08:18
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For the hats i'v use the velocity trick.. And for my drum rolls i'v make them separately, much easier to control.. Sometimes filtering things is a great option too.. |
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