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Best way to learn drum patterns ?
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PsyTiax
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Posted : Dec 24, 2008 17:48:19
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Hi guys, I'm currently trying to improve my skills at laying decent drum patterns, what I'm doing right now just plain sucks, no imagination whatsoever, sounds mechanical and basically every mistake someone with no clue usually do 
I've tried to analyse Stylus RMX MIDI patterns, but when you export the MIDI file, it's just an audio file that's been MIDI sliced, which is awful to learn on.
Do you have any good ressources ? I'm not specificaly aiming at psytrance drums, anything groovy is good enough for me !
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Nectarios
Martian Arts
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Posted : Dec 24, 2008 18:05
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I learned when I started playing drums at the age of 16. Can't really help, you just have to feel the groove. The basic breakbeat that would fall under a 4/4 kick drum, is a kick on the 1st and 3rd beat and snare on the 2nd and 4th beat. Add to that a hi-hat (closed/open) that will fall on every off beat.
After that you get little snare ghost notes, extra drums that shuffle along the beat. Just try importing some basic breakbeats under your 4/4 kick drum and just have a listen.
Listening to other types of music helps a lot.
There is no fast way around this, you just have to listen carefully, feel the beat and...dance to it really.
Peace out.
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Elad
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Posted : Dec 24, 2008 20:18
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hehe yeah i learned with actual drums too
(hmm should i use my drum teacher brother to make loops for me...?)
keep it groovy.. use shuffle , use diffrent quantize modes , play alot with the volumes or better even velocity on supported machine (its diffrent sounds when its intense hit or mellow one)
play with panning of individual perc. as if it was 2 hands.. or general panning as if it was drum kit...
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shellbound
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Posted : Dec 24, 2008 20:42
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i think learning some basics of drumming would really help you with this. and you don't even need to buy a drum kit or get lessons from a teacher. just go and buy a pair of sticks and either a drum pad, or if you are cheap, just find something around the house.
then go to this site and look at the videos:
http://www.freedrumlessons.com/
memorize the patterns for some basic rolls (single stroke, double stroke) and paradiddles.
then fire up your sequencer, set some loop points, set a comfortable tempo, and turn on the metronome. then practice those very basic patterns that you learned. go real slow. first do them straight (all the hits are exactly the same). then start to make accents. hit every 3rd a little harder. pay attention to the effect that creates. hit every 1st and 2nd harder. etc. experiment and pay attention.
i think you'll very quickly achieve a few AHA moments. one of them would be the accents mentioned previously. another one would be understanding subdivisions. for example, set the metronome to 60bpm. that's real slow. now play quarter notes for 30 seconds (every time the metronome makes a sound you make a hit). then play eight notes in the same span of time (twice as fast/twice as many hits). simple enough? now try making 3 equal-distant hits for every 4 sounds that the metronome makes. you just understood triplets. now try switching between straight quarter notes and triplets. whoa, dude.
give this a week. 45 mins a day of fucking around with this is going to be plenty for some revelations.
then sit down with your sequencer and try to draw in some notes with the newly discovered knowledge.
then come back here and report on your progess.
have fun, dude. |
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PsyTiax
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Posted : Dec 25, 2008 00:41
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Damn me, keepin' on asking questions on this board when I know that I'll get answers soooo good it won't be able to work for my exams during the next week
You guys are the best, kudos to all you 3 ! |
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orbit
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Posted : Dec 27, 2008 03:09
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hey mate a good tip for feeling out your own rhythms is focusing on building hits with all kinds of different sounding percussion and different spacing around your snare which sits on 2nd and 4th so:
----s-------s--- and start even putting like numbers on '-' spaces for example
--1-s--232--s--1- etc etc.
hope that helps man remember to have fun with it. |
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naga
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Posted : Dec 27, 2008 08:11
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learn to play the whole prodigy discography with drums and then write all down in cubase 
then you'll padawan
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