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Nectarios
Martian Arts
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Posted : Jan 30, 2009 16:47
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What Andrew said + I always high pass the bottom end from sounds I don't want any bottom end in and then put them trhough the compressor, in order to avoid making the compressor work more for no reason.
One good thing to experiement with is delays and flangers/phasers. Its nice to get the flanging effect sweeping in the delay part of the sound, but sometimes you just want more static sweeps and it is then that you put the flanger/phaser, before the delay.
 
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jizy
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Posted : Jan 30, 2009 17:11
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ah ic all comments are helpfull this iz the sort of stuff i mean, keep the ideas flowing .
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Airi
Airi
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Posted : Feb 9, 2009 06:20
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hey
@oxya, what is time fx?
@gutter, this sounds really interesting, what you're proposing. i didn't really get the point though, you said the sound will sound "inside" the monitors, do you mean one has to layer another sound of the same synth over the subtle delay signal, in order to achieve the so called hass effect?
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~d2~
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Posted : Feb 9, 2009 10:18
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I don't think I have a set chain. I start the DAW with inserts empty.
What is interesting is that on consoles the insert point is post input trim and pre EQ. So EQ would usually come post compression. But in the digital age we can EQ before, which can make alot of sense. Get rid of what you don't want first. Rather like gating a kick from the rest of the drum kit before compressing.
As i go out the box for my delay I usually print the delay to a track and may EQ that as well. But is usually get a rough balance and EQ the source before printing. Though sometime I may just EQ both separately.
Quite often I will use some EQ after compression as well.
I do like to high pass non bass sounds before other processing. Thats probably my only set way.
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gutter
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Posted : Feb 9, 2009 14:59
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@Airi
with this example of that sound you will have only wet sound, therefore it creates a "placement" effect to the sound, pushing it to the background of the mix, like being "inside" the speaker and not in front, having a delay effect and pushed that to the background like a reverb (without using a reverb)
Anyway it is an example for practicing to see how it affects the signal, usually you want the dry signal too
The Haas effect is just two mono signals, panned left/right each one with a slight delay on one of them (not a delay plugin), just a movement of the audio by 20ms to 50ms. This way our ears perceive that as "chorus" and the signal sounds "bigger" and wider, works nice with hihats for example
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makus
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Posted : Feb 9, 2009 18:43
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I put my compressor in the last slot. In most cases I equalize at first, then add all sorts of effects. If any of these effects have critical values and change the sound dramatically I put the second equalizer.
I believe this is the most convenient and logical chain for my music.
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nick
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Posted : Feb 9, 2009 18:54
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Tomos
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Posted : Feb 9, 2009 19:50
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On 2009-02-09 18:54, nick wrote:
i have a mastering plugin, like ozone or waves, on every channel as preset. that way you get powerful sound.
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~d2~
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Posted : Feb 9, 2009 20:10
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On 2009-02-09 19:50, Tomos wrote:
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On 2009-02-09 18:54, nick wrote:
i have a mastering plugin, like ozone or waves, on every channel as preset. that way you get powerful sound.
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Epic fail
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I bet it looks nice to look at though.  |
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Elad
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Posted : Feb 9, 2009 20:24
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well what i can see is most people get to VERY close results , some rather more compression in mix and some more in the mastering..
i almost not using any compression in the mix maybe slight one on groups or on very 'crazy' channels but would rather a good squweeze on mastering.. when many people will allready compress the mix alot and rather just slight eq as master..
on topic
i like to have usualy the effects by logic..
meens , if i want the phaser to effect the delay it will be placed before the phaser , of it i want the delay to be more static then the phased line it will be after the phaser
same with eq.. if i want any eq before the other effects i will use one , and if i want it after i will use another one (or just one or 0 , as much needed - sometime you dont want the extra bass coming in phaser process)
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jizy
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Posted : Feb 10, 2009 01:05
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how would u be able to put an effect in after a plugin in cubase? group to another group or bus? reverb---bus 2.--- distortion
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gutter
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Posted : Feb 10, 2009 10:44
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On 2009-02-10 01:05, jizy wrote:
how would u be able to put an effect in after a plugin in cubase? group to another group or bus? reverb---bus 2.--- distortion
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what do you mean, as insert or as send? and what kind of plugin?
dynamics should be in the insert chain, whereas effects are placed as fx channels to send the signal there.
If you want you can put another effect on the same fx channel, in example on fx channel 1 , a delay and after a chorus, or the opposite and then eq it there,, or send your signal on two different fx channels with different plugins on them...
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same here, cannot find a "good" use except parallel compression on drums and percussion generally, but i try avoid them too anywhere else in the mix
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Airi
Airi
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Posted : Feb 10, 2009 14:32
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@gutter
thanks for your reply! indeed now as you're telling me that it's not a delay plugin, i think I know what you mean. I use this effect very often in my production, but for this I use a plugin called "abyss imager" which can be put on stereo channels. It does exactly what you told me, you can choose the delay for each side of for example 15ms.... and yep, the sound is "somewhere else"
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