frisbeehead
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Posted : Sep 11, 2015 21:12
^even if it doesn't have one. if it's one of the models with a super drive on it, it can be replaced with an SSD - there's a known and widely used hack for doing just that on ifixt's website.
pay attention 'cause some of the new models have their memories soldered on the board (which is frankly stupid, and should be against the law even), 'thus if you pick one of those be sure it's got enough RAM going for your needs, 'cause there's simply no way to upgrade it afterwards.
most models from 2010/11 can be upgraded to at least 16GB of ram and be made to have a standard 7200rpm disk for storage and an SSD for the apps.
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Posted : Sep 13, 2015 17:25
Hmm... I'm pretty much against Macs for music production for about 5 years now.. ever since they abolished their macbook line (the one with a either a white or black choice)
If you want something that is well build (meaning, no removable parts that can get lost of break down), and tons of battery life, then yeah a mac is good. But if you have anything more than a usb sound card and a controller, you're out of luck.. only the 17" version has 3 usb ports. yeah, you can carry hubs around or a thunderbolt adapter to increase the ports, but that takes our the objective or portability (plus, you be paying twice the actual value, as Apple overprices their equipment ). I really think that apple only has "a name", because of it's image.. but they've given up on musicians a long time ago,
That said, the thing about PC systems is there are just too many different configuration, and since the strength of a chain is dictated by it's weakest link, it's very easy for you to end up with some hyped-up system that some manufacturer wanted to impose on you. Also, since most systems are "bench marked" according to standard benchmark tests - which generally isn't using music software of for music applications. Heck, most manufacturers build their systems not to be the best, but to have a better score in the benchmark (like, take all the animals in the forest and evaluate them by how fast they can climb a tree.. )
I've been buying my systems from these guys for years now (well, from rain recording, before Mr. Vincent opened his own company ) www.moltenmusictechnology.com It's pricey, but the guy hand tests and tunes each system specifically for music production -> you really cant get any better than that. You'll know that your system is specifically tailored to handle exactly what you throw at it (and, they can also handle other operations too, like browsing, gaming, etc.).
Just my 2 cents
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On 2015-09-01 10:46:24, psyrex wrote:
Hello I want to buy a Macbook Pro i5 16 gb ram 2012 , what do you say about this computer If the software Ableton works 9
If you really wanna go the mac way (and drop to the dark side), I have a 7 year old Rain Recording core2duo 2.5 GHz system laying around with 4GB of ram (the max the motherboard can handle) and a HDD -> and it can handle Ableton 9 easily The SSD makes wonders in system performance (especially when loading up a huge live sets full of hundreds of track stems all in high quality), so since that Mac ends up being better than this Rain system even without a SSD you be more than capable or running AL9 (but an SSD is always worth it versus a HDD )
It's just my opinion that you could be better served than Apple stuff.
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Posted : Sep 29, 2015 13:07
Knocz i think these laptops are from clevo. I have one of these
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On 2015-09-13 17:25, knocz wrote:
(plus, you be paying twice the actual value, as Apple overprices their equipment ). I really think that apple only has "a name", because of it's image.. but they've given up on musicians a long time ago,
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I've been buying my systems from these guys for years now (well, from rain recording, before Mr. Vincent opened his own company ) http://www.moltenmusictechnology.com It's pricey, but the guy hand tests and tunes each system specifically for music production -> you really cant get any better than that.
Definitely. I dare to "predict" that some of the greatest innovations this year will come from Microsoft.
Apple has simply the best marketing campaign in the history of marketing products. Everyone in the 80/90ies who considers him/herself to be inidividual and different from the herd and who watched the apple spot had to buy a mac ( and i still find it to be the best tv spot ever seen : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SswMzUWOiJg
But at the end of the day, microsoft seems to have the better products for me and it is what I use too. Just wait, at the moment Microsoft works hard on making all your mobile devices as powerful and efficient as your computer is - this will be one of the best things that happened to the mobile world and apple will probably keep on with preaching user experience design to be the most important factor for a nerd. It is not, a nerd loves interfaces most - interfaces with all different types of appication servers and databases and foreign systems and so on. And in my humble opinion microsoft is better in this.
Steve Jobs once said that Bill Gates had to take some more acid which would make him more visionary - but may be he took exactly as much as needed and stayed on the ground which was better at the end:).
Also just wait to see the new revolution of Microsoft in the field of virtual reality. It is not about being the first one to do it, but being the first one to have this variety of interfaces with other architectures. I love it, and this year I might even throw away my iPhone and switch to the new mobile device of Microsoft where apps will be as powerful as a daw on the desktop . Besides, what is cocoa in comparison to java?
Nice interesting link, thanks for sharing!
But let me see this great spot of apple once again - the best ever made! For a product with the highest profit margins ever made.
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Posted : Nov 28, 2015 02:22
Don't mean to offend anyone. But this reads like someone's rationalisation of his own tastes and choices.
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Posted : Nov 28, 2015 02:40
At the end of the day.
If you want games, go with windows.
If you're into graphic's design, you may as well get a mac as all of them come with industry standard IPS monitors, whose colours are state of the art and properly calibrated, besides having a ton of other features that make it real handy for anyone into such things. And the price difference is pretty much justified by the quality of the components you get, if such things do matter to anyone choosing a computer. Not really a big deal for musicians.
If you want music, go with either one, knowing that there's a few DAWs out there that are either win and mac exclusively, so that can be a tie breaker.
Other things to have in mind are: windows WILL require a more technically literate user that knows how to protect it from viruses, keeping things up-to-date, taking care of drivers, the registry, disk care routines, so forth and so on. If this is no problem, one's sure to have a smooth experience provided one has a decent computer.
On the mac side, your life looks more easy but any kind of service done to it is going to cost you an arm and a leg, you'll see other people using stuff that's not compatible with your system unless of course you do install windows on another partition or disk. In other words, if you need both, you're better of with a mac or hackintosh.
If you're giging, the metal chassis is a plus 'cause its certainly sturdier then the common plastic that's seen mostly everywhere else (I said mostly!).
But if we're serious, these days things are so good in terms of both hardware and software that no matter what you choose, it's certainly not on the tech side that things are going to fail.
Another thing: latest updates of both platforms are a joke. Lots of problems, many things broken, some protocols changed, is rumoured not to play nicely with firewire on the mac side (no explanation for it, besides programmed obsolescence). Would refrain from updating on either one. Not worth the trouble, imo.
). I really think that apple only has "a name", because of it's image.. but they've given up on musicians a long time ago,
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