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beigining to d.j.

lefen


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Posted : Jan 2, 2007 23:26
hey everyone,
i have been producing for quite a while now and d.j.ing didnt really interest me,recently ive been getting alot of requests to d.j. since everyone thinks a producer is also a d.j. even though i have no clue in the field. i'm sure i'm not the only one which started producing and then started d.j.ing. so im asking you guys how do you begin ?
what does a d.j. really do?
what equipment and knowlige is needed?

thanx for any help
lefen
Kane
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Posted : Jan 2, 2007 23:49
Sorry to be a link referrer, but here are some specifics on the techniques of djing :

http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/25884/forum/2

All of the equipment described can probably be found on :

http://www.musiciansfriend.com
(in the dj&lighting section)

I only have a US based site to give you for gear, but do a google search and you should be able to find the same products in your area.

What does a dj do?
He/she plays music for a crowd..
That's really it..all other techinques are just additive.

DJ's have playlists of songs that generally sound good together, and in a good order. This adds a good amount of flow and style to your set (playlist).

All techniques and preferences for djing are up for speculation..the dj plays music, and that's the only limitation.
Tomos
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Posted : Jan 2, 2007 23:57
I'm exactly the same. I sold my decks (vinyl) because I was wasting too much time attempting to mix instead of getting on with music making. Now I've got some tracks made to drop in, I've picked up a bit of djing.

If you want to remain mostly producer, and be very cheap about the whole thing. Get Virtual Dj and just dj with a laptop - it's totally cheating because it beat-matches for you, but what the hell. It's a cheap introduction.

If you want to spend some money, the bare minimum is a mixer and 2 decks (I'm sure you know this already) I recommend Pioneer cdj200s because they also play Mp3 cd's (put 200 mp3 tracks on 2 cd's and you're away) Also Pioneers are pretty standard in clubs and if you learn on them, you'll be fine with everything else. I recommend at least a 4 channel mixer so you can add laptop/vinyl in later as well if you want.

Knowledge - a weeks careful listening and you'll be beatmatching. Then its just when to drop the tracks, and some creative mixing (crossfading, eq cuts, flange effects etc.)

These are the basics I know and use, someone will probably come in and tear this post to bits though.

I spend all my time making, I've blagged my way through sets, I'm not a dj and don't want to be.

Kane
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Posted : Jan 4, 2007 03:37
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On 2007-01-02 23:57, Tomos wrote:
I'm exactly the same. I sold my decks (vinyl) because I was wasting too much time attempting to mix instead of getting on with music making. Now I've got some tracks made to drop in, I've picked up a bit of djing.

If you want to remain mostly producer, and be very cheap about the whole thing. Get Virtual Dj and just dj with a laptop - it's totally cheating because it beat-matches for you, but what the hell. It's a cheap introduction.

If you want to spend some money, the bare minimum is a mixer and 2 decks (I'm sure you know this already) I recommend Pioneer cdj200s because they also play Mp3 cd's (put 200 mp3 tracks on 2 cd's and you're away) Also Pioneers are pretty standard in clubs and if you learn on them, you'll be fine with everything else. I recommend at least a 4 channel mixer so you can add laptop/vinyl in later as well if you want.

Knowledge - a weeks careful listening and you'll be beatmatching. Then its just when to drop the tracks, and some creative mixing (crossfading, eq cuts, flange effects etc.)

These are the basics I know and use, someone will probably come in and tear this post to bits though.

I spend all my time making, I've blagged my way through sets, I'm not a dj and don't want to be.





I recommend buying the decks over a laptop..you have to be able to beat match wit h even the worst decks sometimes, especially as a producer/live act you might run into situations where your laptop fails or something..
lefen


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Posted : Jan 4, 2007 11:42
thanx for the info,
really helpful

one more thing,
do you have any tips for building sets?


Djones
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Posted : Jan 4, 2007 12:09
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On 2007-01-04 11:42, lefen wrote:
thanx for the info,
really helpful

one more thing,
do you have any tips for building sets?

Some advice on EQ would be appreciated as well.
Right now I just take out the bass of the incoming track and gradually turn it up, and the other down untill I've mixed one track into the other.






Yeah I could use some advice as well!
Madpup
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Posted : Jan 4, 2007 16:56
Building sets is just about your imagination really, i dont think there is any technical advise that can be given.

With EQs..well....i think once you get a bit more familiar with djing, the ideas will start to flow on what to do. A couple of basic tips are:

- I would not reccomend having both trebles turned up when mixing one track in with another. Often that results in too much treble and hearing damage for the crowd. A lot of djs are pretty deaf already and can not really hear that, but i tell you, it is not pleasant
- I rarelly use mids, but sometimes when a track has a melodic outro, I would turn down bass and treble and turn up the mids, as that can emphasise the melody of the track you are mixing out of and can sound quite cool
- Be more inventive with the bass. Sometimes it work well to mix by instantly turning down one bass and turning up the other.

But really it all depends on circumstances and the tracks. There are many ways to come up with pretty cool mixes.
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