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Beginning of a new era : Klein & Hummel O300 + Benchmark DAC-1

Get-a-fix
Getafix

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Posted : Nov 21, 2007 16:52
Cool, look forward to hearing your opinion. I started a thread on gearslutz & everyone suggested keeping the FF400 & spending the money on something other than a DAC.           http://www.soundcloud.com/getafixmusic
PoM
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Posted : Nov 21, 2007 17:06
most people said me to keep the Rme ,i m thinking to the eventide eclipse too so i don t know what to do ... i ll have the lavry this week end and report if its a major update from the RME .
Seppa


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Posted : Nov 22, 2007 12:37
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Cool, look forward to hearing your opinion. I started a thread on gearslutz & everyone suggested keeping the FF400 & spending the money on something other than a DAC.



Of course... The FF400 conv. are totally descent.. More than enough for what we do here.
The last infected mush album was recorded with an Rme 800 and Bm6 if I trust their gear list. Their production is excellent and they've recorded vocals and instruments, that's where converters and preamps really need to be good.(They did use good preamps as well)

At this stage I beleive it is more important to have a good acoustic... I make my music in a small room untreated(shame on me) but when I work at my studio things are really different..
descent converters descent monitors and a good acoustic... thats more important than having expensive converters...
PoM
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Posted : Nov 22, 2007 14:01
anyone know what sound better ,the converter master or slave ?
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Getafix

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Posted : Nov 22, 2007 14:04
@ Seppa

I already have acoustic treatment in my room. After reading many people's opinions on two forums i've decided to stick with the FF400 & spend this money on getting a decent pre-amp instead.

          http://www.soundcloud.com/getafixmusic
Trip-
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Posted : Nov 22, 2007 14:17
Get a fix... good call.
which preamp do you have in mind ? 1 chanel? 2 channels?

PoM,
You set the master/slave setting to control the clock.
Master is setting the clock, slave is working under the master clock.           Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
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Getafix

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Posted : Nov 22, 2007 21:19
^
I'll probably go for 1 channel for now. I'm thinking of getting either a:

Grace Design 101
http://www.gracedesign.com/products/101/model101.htm
or
True systems P-solo
http://www.true-systems.com/products_solo_ribbon.html
or
FMR Audio RNP:
http://www.fmraudio.com/RNP8380.htm

I'm open to more suggestions in the same price range. Still doing my research.          http://www.soundcloud.com/getafixmusic
Alex Roudos
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Posted : Nov 23, 2007 01:29
http://www.thomann.de/nl/toft_audio_designs_afc_2.htm
2 channel mic pre/eq.

http://www.thomann.de/nl/spl_track_one.htm
Mono channel strip with AD option.

http://www.thomann.de/nl/spl_goldmike_9844.htm
2 channel tube mic-pre.

I don't know if they are exactly on your price range(the Goldmike should be) but the other two are priced at 569 euros and the RNP8380 at 499 euros which is not as good as compared to the AFC-2 and the Track One.

Personally i'd suggest the Toft Audio AFC-2. You get a pro sounding dual mic-pre/eq on a budget price.
          A friend told me once that the biggest mistake we make is that we believe we live, when in reality we are sleeping in the waiting room of life.
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Getafix

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Posted : Nov 23, 2007 09:42
Thanks Alex for the recommendations. I'll do some research on your suggestions.

Is the AFC-2 better than the one's i mentioned? It's a bit above my budget but i'll get it if its a lot better.
          http://www.soundcloud.com/getafixmusic
Alex Roudos
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Posted : Nov 23, 2007 10:47
You are wellcome.

I think it's a lot better than the ones you mentioned.

Malcolm Toft is a legend on his own. http://www.toftaudio.com/pdf/tapeop.pdf

Just search for it in other forums, i don't think that you'll find any negative comment about it really.

When i was looking for a mic-pre for myself the AFC-2 was recommended to me by many people who were mixing or mastering engineers. Besides that you get 2 channels which is always very useful(what if you want to record stereo source?).           A friend told me once that the biggest mistake we make is that we believe we live, when in reality we are sleeping in the waiting room of life.
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Getafix

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Posted : Nov 23, 2007 11:19
That's true having two channels will come in handy. I don't really need the eq on the AFC-2 though.

What do you think about the Great River ME-1NV?           http://www.soundcloud.com/getafixmusic
PoM
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Posted : Nov 23, 2007 13:14
it s very good ! if you can add the eq later, ,it seems you can get lot of different color with them .it was one i wanted for analog warmth but it s a bit too expensive for me right now...
Elad
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Posted : Nov 23, 2007 13:21
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On 2007-11-16 01:30, Alex Roudos wrote:

As Kaz said the DAC-1 is better than the RME and there's no comparison between the O300s and the BM6As. From what i've also read the O300s outperform the BM15As. Only the fact that the O300s are 3-way automatically places them ahead of anything that's 2-way even if they are close to the same price.




Dynaudio Bm6a RECOMENDED to work with Extra Sub Woofer! so no comparison is valid untill u check it out to compare to uncomplete system , offcourse its joke..

and i wouldnt recomend to peaple to change the rme+dynaudio setup so quick

maybe for peaple who now wants to buy its great offer
but once u spent your money on a system (and GOOD one) i cant see why keep pouring money (as long the music dont pay it back , the dyna+rme is 100% proffesional(bedroom production wise) and can generate top-notch mixes)


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Tomos
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Posted : Nov 23, 2007 14:46
3-way speakers aren't necessarily instantly better than 2-way. More crossovers = more lumps in response unless very well engineered.

Although I'm sure that doesn't apply to the 0300s
Alex Roudos
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Posted : Nov 23, 2007 20:18
@ Get-a fix : Great River ME-1NV is great at least from what i read at gearslutz. But on the other hand is too expensive with a retail price of $1395 at Great River's site and considering it's one channel, i think it's too much. If you finally go at that price range then i'd recommend to save a bit more and get the one i'm gonna get soon, the API A2D. It has 2 excellent mic/line pres plus an excellent AD converter. Concluding i'd say that if you want more than a descent mic-pre then you should look at the 500-600 euros range at least. If otherwise, the FF400 mic-pres are already descent anyway.

@ Elad : Totally agree and thank you

@ Tomos : I also agree with you say about 3-way vs 2-way speakers but i must also say that this applies to hi-fi speakers imo. There are so few 3-way nearfield studio monitors and they are all priced at the high end range, so what you say doesn't really apply to this case imo again.           A friend told me once that the biggest mistake we make is that we believe we live, when in reality we are sleeping in the waiting room of life.
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