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IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 8, 2004 20:49
Superglue,

I did not compare between M-audio to rme or to any other audio card- all i said is that m audio is not sucks in latency and not making clicks and noises and it's all based on my own experience with my old delta 410,

And cheers and conversation are I think the purpose of this forum, I just tryed to keep focus on the topic,

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organicparadox


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Posted : Feb 8, 2004 22:21
i say delta 44 or 66 with breakout box. until you start investing in some serious gear, those cards are great, and provide good expandability. no dsp though;(           www.organicparadox.com

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DJ_Chorman
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Posted : Feb 9, 2004 04:39
What about the 1010Lt....... not 1010, but 1010-LT that is half price of the 1010 is it good quality?????

I think i will need more than 2 stereo inputs, and this one gets rid of need for preamps (XLR mics and all)..... 10 input/outputs + many software........ and half price fo the 1010
ZilDoggo


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Posted : Feb 9, 2004 09:09
soundcard dsp usually does nothing at all since all processing is done by the sequencer soft.
all comes down to the quality of the ad/da converters and the clock stability.,,.

just my 2 cents.,

aka.,
Mike A
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Posted : Feb 9, 2004 10:30
Quote:

On 2004-02-08 22:21, organicparadox wrote:
i say delta 44 or 66 with breakout box.


And how are you supposed to hear what you're playing?
Kaz
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Posted : Feb 9, 2004 12:40
I've seen at least one studio that uses a delta66, and that soundcard gave no porblems for over two years now, has very low latency, great inputs/outputs and everything.

Sure, it's not a top of the line RME card, but saying it's worse than most other cards is probably just because of something like bad wiring in the computer box itself (did you know that an IDE cable that goes directly next to your soundcard my cause inetrference for instance) - something RME cards are not nearly as prone to, but RME cards cost around 3-4 times the price of a delta66, as they are in a totally different category.

m-audio are a good choice - a lot of people I know use them and none reported any problems EVER - but from what I read, they do give a slight coloring to the sound, something you won't get on cards in the $800+ category of soundcards.           http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222
Te_nTe
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Posted : Feb 9, 2004 20:37
i think the pulsar also costs because of the plugins and other shitty things which comes with it.

go for RME - that will be the best.
if you are very rich or got connection in this industry get a self designed card that's the best.
DJ_Chorman
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Posted : Feb 10, 2004 05:21
Alo

I have decided to go with audiophile, because I have lack of funds and am new, my understanding is that the Creamware Pulsar II is the best of best, and i will eventually upgrade to that..... Astral Projection is suggesting this sound card....
http://www.psymag.com/magazines/ArticlePage.asp?MagID=2&ArticleID=739

Anyways, I will need only maximum one keyboard + mic/ synth for now, so it is good..... i will spend more money on the monitors or maybe not even for now......
As for the term DSP...... what is this???
Kaz
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Posted : Feb 10, 2004 12:26
Pulsar II is a very nice card, but again, it is more a 'dsp' card than a basic sound card. Sure you can use effects and stuff on it which saves a lot of CPU power (and those DSP effects are really nifty too). The Delta1010 is also in that category - a lot of features that are not basic - but this is where the similarity ends.

If you want a card that does the basics right including MIDI, then a delta66 (around $300, less than a third of the price of an RME Multiface including a PCI adapter) is a great option, if you want a more powerfull card that still keeps to the basics and will take anything you can throw at it, than the Pulsar II, Layla and delta1010 are all excellent cards, each with different strong and weak points. These cards are in the 400-800 dollar price range, and are not the basics, but will fit your needs until you develop your studio quite a bit.

If you want a heavy duty sound card that you won't need to replace in your studio for the next few years at least, that'll have no glitches in it's work, will process everything you can send to it without any effort and not work endlessly with external mixers and stuff like that, RME and Motu's newer sound cards use similar chipsets/technologies to give very low latencies (0.5ms), high quality inputs/outputs, a totally objective and uncolored sound, midi/asio/whatever support, and basically cover as well as possible all the basic studio functions - motu being slightly cheaper and RME being known for always making cards of the highest quality. At over $800, these cards are not the low end, but, as a positive point, you won't need to replace them for a loooooooooooong while.

If you want something that'll run without giving an effort, and are looking for things under the $400 price, m-audio simply enough HAVE NO REAL COMPETITION. They simply make the best and most stable stuff at that price range, tested by many all over the world, with mature drivers and software support.           http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222
medir
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Posted : Feb 10, 2004 14:04
i guess kaz get it to the point (...once more )

very important for soundcards is good driver-support, n there is midiman very good too. so wheter if u buy the lt1010 or the audiophile ( if u still can get it for 280$ take it ) both are good cards for beginning.
a small advantage i give the lt1010 is the smaller latency (...it s quite important if u work a lot with vstI's ), i guess it s this 50 or 80 bucks worth ( n u ve got more connecs...).

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