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BE VERY CAREFULL WITH STARSOUNDS REC.

Triplex
Triplex

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Posted : Aug 14, 2003 14:38
PEOPLE!

These are old news.

Starsound 'record label' has fcked up the majority of their artists. I have released 2 tracks there (triplex-q6 / triplex-underflow) ages ago and I have received no money. But I was happy cause I was getting lots of promises Oh and also, since last year I am receiving no replies to my emails and phonecalls. How cool is that ?

This is the case with 5-6 other artists, friends of me, who have collaborated with that 'record label'.

Be careful, bigger artists who have released on starsound (yumade, paste, pots) might not agree with my sayings because they might have been payed (this is a common strategy of crappy labels -> pay the big artists and dont be bothered for the small ones).

ps. PLUR my a$$... when it comes to bussiness these words should not be said.           http://triplex.trance.net
Yuli
Retired

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Posts :  1660
Posted : Aug 14, 2003 15:01
Quote:
Or you can promise someone a track and then sell it to someone else or sell the same track in different names to different labels or promise a track and disappear...



That is true, but it doesnt really come close to an artist that works his ass off for a few months and don't get paid - don't forget that the label usually has an interest in the merchandises that the artist makes, the label wants to make the profit on behalf of the artist ( and that is ok ), so even if now and then there are small glitches from the artist side.. There is much more ( I would say 9 to 1 ) bad smell from the label side of this business, and u know it

now

Quote:
Yuli , when I said "simple people" I meant ,people that doesn't make music and doesn't manage things in the trance world !
You know what I meant , so no need to be pathetic.



And I meant that this site belongs to 'simple people' and not to those who manage the things in the trance world. Cuz most of those who do manage things in the trance world don't do it that good or should I say don't give a shit about it - check it out I said most.

It is very rare that I become pathetic, surely not here ( that doesnt measn I don't become pathetic b4 certain ppl hehe but you can be relaxed Naomi, u don't make me feel this way in any of your posts up till now )
          A man with a "master plan" is often a woman
Menog
Menog (Spectral records)

Started Topics :  9
Posts :  275
Posted : Aug 14, 2003 15:51
[quote]
On 2003-08-14 07:17, shahar wrote:
Yeah, but what if Menog is lying? What if it's actually him that owes Johnny Sin money? What if Johnny Sin told him to stay out of Greece because he talked badly to his little sister?


camon people!!!!!!!!you you think if this wasn´t true!! i would be doing ALL THIS???
not!!!
i was working 2 intensive months on my album so this guys can make ALOT money with my work??????
his pissed cause i´m not realising my 2º album on his label!!!!that´s what!!!

we have sign a contrac for the album that says recing the realtys after 6 months!!!!6 months have passed!!(and i have to give half of what is mine to miguel,the guy from the studio recording here in portugal)

we ha sign a contract for a track for the next compilation(7 months ago)
i´ve send him already 5 of my best tracks and he never calls saying even if he got them or not!!AND NO MONEY AT ALL .....

i have to send him sms every day!!!
and the guy never ansewrs!!!!
whyat kind of attitude is this????
NOT PROFESSIONAL AT ALL!!!!!!!

i´m the one who as to call him, like a few times so he can answer!!!

A LOT of people told me about jonhy sin (geek people) cause he powns a lot of money to a few greeks artists...not just greeks cause fred (SURIA)wasn´t paid as well for his track on their 1º compilation....

so tell me i´m i the cause of all this???
don´t think so....
all i what is what belongs to me.
the omney of the track and the roaltys of the 2000 copys sold!!!.

i´m not working for you mr jonh sin and then you can just call me and sy do not show in greece anymore!!!!!!

who do you think you are??

i´m not the other guys that you own money as well

so prepare your self.

          www.menog.com www.myspace.com/menogspaces
www.spectralrecords.com www.myspace.com/spectralrecords
www.3dvisionrecordings.com
Dance,is perhaps one of the truest art forms.In dance there is no medium between the artist and the creation.And ho
Menog
Menog (Spectral records)

Started Topics :  9
Posts :  275
Posted : Aug 14, 2003 16:09
[quote]
On 2003-08-14 14:38, Triplex wrote:
PEOPLE!

These are old news.

Starsound 'record label' has fcked up the majority of their artists. I have released 2 tracks there (triplex-q6 / triplex-underflow) ages ago and I have received no money. But I was happy cause I was getting lots of promises Oh and also, since last year I am receiving no replies to my emails and phonecalls. How cool is that ?





this is very nice to know...
thanks for the info triplex!!
          www.menog.com www.myspace.com/menogspaces
www.spectralrecords.com www.myspace.com/spectralrecords
www.3dvisionrecordings.com
Dance,is perhaps one of the truest art forms.In dance there is no medium between the artist and the creation.And ho
Surrender
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Aug 14, 2003 17:01
ok i'll repost as well: Dani sorry to hear about this, i hope this gets resolved in the best way, my suggestion is try to talk to Detox, since he is both a part of this forum and apart of Starsound Rec. maybe he can help you out with your problem. All you want is to get what you deserve, and from what you sent me, its well earned hard money. keep up the great work man, and positive attitude and this will resolve.           "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
http://myspace.com/gadimon
yossi
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posts :  1641
Posted : Aug 14, 2003 17:20
well... in this case i`ll go with shahar.

we all know that this "scene" is not perfect, on the contrary... its gettin uglier every day.
and we all know that labels are fucking up artists all the time, its not a secret.

but this is not the place to solve this kind of arguments.
legal actions need to be taken.



yulik: i know u can feel sympathy with this story... and i totaly understand your reply
sure its not ok that things like that happens and fur sure the artists that beeing fucked up shouldnt stay still.
but this thread, as i see it is pure gossip.
and im not sure we have place for this here... tho i can open 3907479027 threads about "scene" gossip
about the advance payments... well, sure its not like 7-8 years ago, it shouldnt be like 7-8 years ago.

and neomi... this whole "wanna Bcome a superstar" thingy, well... u should drop it.
its the wrong approach and it most likely will get you in this kind of shit like we read here.
          if you want to be rich, u`ve got to be a bitch!
traveller
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posts :  3803
Posted : Aug 14, 2003 17:40
why the hell has no1 taken any legal actions???

triplex you are greek? why haven't you done anything?????           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
slomi
Inactive User

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Posts :  375
Posted : Aug 14, 2003 17:54
yossi , grow up , I don't want to fight with anyone , stop get favor for hate ! be real ! and my name is nAomi (with A).


STRANGE !
I used to see DETOX online much more...


Triplex
Menog
I can understand what you feel , but don't give a f*ck , calm down and don't let such label to harm your passion to make music.
I know few artists who leave the secne because they were so angry because of lost promises...

I'm sure one or two track ,500-200$ won't make you rich , though I hate those who became rich from lies...

be cool , they don't worth your rage !

try to stick on your music lab and make better music to get contract with better labels.

this is what I do
I got lots of invitation , I just won't release my music in lame label which don't have good foundation.
I won't take the risk.

take care


Naomi (Brutal)
          " You were born original... Don't die a copy.. "
- Some dude with a beard
Always remember:
Half of the cup is full...And the other half is on its way up...
yossi
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Aug 14, 2003 17:59
well Naomi with an A... no hate is around, not from me n e way.

ps: Austin powers - Dutch hater!
          if you want to be rich, u`ve got to be a bitch!
slomi
Inactive User

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Posted : Aug 14, 2003 18:00
"try to stick on your music lab and make better music to get contract with better labels. "

I mean ,make your own style , just work harder (no commercialism meanings...)           " You were born original... Don't die a copy.. "
- Some dude with a beard
Always remember:
Half of the cup is full...And the other half is on its way up...
Basilisk
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Aug 14, 2003 18:11
My opinion... in this scene legal action isn't always a viable method of recourse... aside from the issue of the tangled web of international law, the most likely outcome for artists and labels is simply a bunch of rich lawyers

There should be some kind of negative repercussion for people who do such bad things in our world... you would think that given the situation with low sales and the difficulty of putting out new releases that a label would want to cling to every advantage offered by a clean reputation and signs of integrity, no? But if we collectively ignore when wrongs are made against the artist then this offers a new route towards profitability for the labels owned by those with a broken moral compass...

However I would agree with Shahar on the issue that this isn't a court, and judgements need not be made in a formalized manner. Everyone will surely make their individual and personal judgement anyhow.

I'll leave with a cliche of a quote: there are three sides to any story - yours, theirs, and the truth.
yossi
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Aug 14, 2003 18:27
Quote:

On 2003-08-14 18:11, basilisk wrote:


there are three sides to any story - yours, theirs, and the truth.





          if you want to be rich, u`ve got to be a bitch!
slomi
Inactive User

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Posts :  375
Posted : Aug 14, 2003 18:44
I wonder , where is theirs side ?           " You were born original... Don't die a copy.. "
- Some dude with a beard
Always remember:
Half of the cup is full...And the other half is on its way up...
Mike A
Subra

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Posts :  3954
Posted : Aug 14, 2003 20:03
Detox is on vacation I think..
Lucas Aly
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  658
Posted : Aug 14, 2003 20:44
A pitty that this things are getting usual in the trance scence...
More and more ppl want to earn money on "others back", at the end, artist suffer the consequences and so do we...           we are one.
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