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BBC 90's docu on goa trance with simon p , james monro raja ram
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 5, 2009 12:50
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Its good to know where you came from, so knowing what it was like in the past and experiencing the good ol' days, sure helps. But you cant move forwards in the right direction if you always look back. Them days were great, but its easy to get sucked in the whole "its not like it used to be" vibe and look at everything with a sour eye.
Its not like it used to be, for some people (the younger ones for sure), the present, is better than the past. What we can learn from them is to remember how we were when we were thirsty for music and were simply gagging for it.
Then we'll all party like we're 18 again... although the music has changed, the essence of trance music is to get lost in the dancefloor and have a great time. If we forget that, then the scene will truly suck balls.
 
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jimbo
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Posted : Feb 5, 2009 13:49
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good one
a bit old but still good
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Nojheim
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Posted : Feb 5, 2009 14:18
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were those rituals shown in the video actually happening? I think they are kinda fake coooz that ritual is more or like a satanic one with the the pentagram in the middle, candles and stuff.
i thought it would be more bright than dark! |
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Elad
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On 2009-02-05 10:13, Login wrote:
As said before for me al EDM genres are a big family united ofr the love to party.
Each scene has its own identity and iconography.
And all of them have acoommon background, they evolved in different directions, but they re still a family
psy trance is the hippie cousin
techno is that hard to die grandfather
minimal is the snob of the family
hardcore is that nihilistic teenager
House is the mother who is very relaxed and caring.
drum and bass is other cousin who like to play football
electro house is the popular girl
ambient is that uncle who always give good advice
experimental is the geek of the family
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i like this point of view
as well the descriptions are quite accurate lol
and for the drugs talk , i havent done drugs that are not being smoked in raggae festivals lol.. and still making lots of trance and going to alot of parties in years ... i think for most older trancers (25-30 + with some exeptions) the seed is not the point anymore , tho it sure shaped alot of the perception.
for me today its a hole new story , with much more connection to the people and the event rather then my own illusion.. the music is the biggest factor for me today , and probably was since i was 15 , the rest is just ways to upgrade the music (alco , seed etc)
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Posted : Feb 5, 2009 16:39
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On 2009-02-05 10:13, Login wrote:
As said before for me al EDM genres are a big family united ofr the love to party.
Each scene has its own identity and iconography.
And all of them have acoommon background, they evolved in different directions, but they re still a family
psy trance is the hippie cousin
techno is that hard to die grandfather
minimal is the snob of the family
hardcore is that nihilistic teenager
House is the mother who is very relaxed and caring.
drum and bass is other cousin who like to play football
electro house is the popular girl
ambient is that uncle who always give good advice
experimental is the geek of the family
and so on
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You forgot about the retarded kid...there's always one in the family: dark trance 
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goaren
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Posted : Feb 5, 2009 21:31
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its more like the disturbed kid than the retarted kid... id call chemicalcrew/dali/u get the idea type fullon the retarded kid  |
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bastardsamadhi
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Posted : Feb 5, 2009 21:43
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lolz @ dali |
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Ascension
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Posted : Feb 5, 2009 22:52
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On 2009-02-05 16:39, pipe&slippers wrote:
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On 2009-02-05 10:13, Login wrote:
As said before for me al EDM genres are a big family united ofr the love to party.
Each scene has its own identity and iconography.
And all of them have acoommon background, they evolved in different directions, but they re still a family
psy trance is the hippie cousin
techno is that hard to die grandfather
minimal is the snob of the family
hardcore is that nihilistic teenager
House is the mother who is very relaxed and caring.
drum and bass is other cousin who like to play football
electro house is the popular girl
ambient is that uncle who always give good advice
experimental is the geek of the family
and so on
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You forgot about the retarded kid...there's always one in the family: dark trance
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Suomi is a better fit for that .
Good video
http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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thegooddale
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On 2009-02-05 05:41, ohmshantiohm wrote:
It's interesting how you always try to insert your "anti psytrance" views everywhere on Isra. And your view essential being that the normal "raves" are better than psy parties, |
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I never said one was better than the other, I just argue that there are very few differences in the two...
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that psymusic is not more intricate & intelligent than other forms of EDM, |
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Well, I do believe this to a certain extent. Just because one track is psytrance and the other is _______, does not make me like the psytrance track more. If it did I would consider myself somewhat brainwashed...
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On 2009-02-05 05:41, ohmshantiohm wrote:
basically you come off as a person who really doesnt like psytrance or doesnt care much about the psy community / culture (and im not deducing this from this one post but rather many posts of yours ive seen in many forums here on isra). |
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Hmm... I'm gonna call bullshit on this one. I think all of the points I have made towards the way the psytrance community percieves itself have been constructive enough. I really think it is an issue that is forcing this scene further and further into stagnation. I do however despise the thought of psytrance being the end all be all psychedelic experience/culture whatever.
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On 2009-02-05 05:41, ohmshantiohm wrote:So I just wanna ask you, why do you come to this forum? Because almost every comment I see of yours is something negative about psytrance or the psyculture. I mean why don't you hang out in some other EDM forums or something?? Sorry for the off topic people.
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ALmost everytime I come on here it makes me think of these lyrics from Propagandhi's song "APPARENTLY, I’M A “P.C. FASCIST” (BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT BOTH HUMAN AND NON-HUMAN ANIMALS)"
The line goes something like this:
"Do you still insist on feigning indignance (aka: indignation) to reason? To collective self-interest? Tell you what- I’ll call you on your shit, PLEASE CALL ME ON MINE. Then we can grow together and make this shit-hole planet better in time." |
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ajna
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 00:16
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On 2009-02-05 14:18, Nojheim wrote:
were those rituals shown in the video actually happening? I think they are kinda fake coooz that ritual is more or like a satanic one with the the pentagram in the middle, candles and stuff.
i thought it would be more bright than dark!
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return to the source is one of the original english goa trance tribe that , among other spiritual practices, could place a crystal in the center of a club to spread and record vibrations inside the party.
Like any good goa tribe any person of the tribe try to bring his best nrjs to the party.
...and so should do every trancers coming to it.
dancing, smiling, laughing, sharing, loving.. is it satanic ??
goa trance is closely linked to spirituality and esoteric practices, nothing new here.
if you wanna see a satanic practice here, it is up to you. |
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ajna
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 00:53
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On 2009-02-06 00:50, thegooddale wrote:
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On 2009-02-05 05:41, ohmshantiohm wrote:
It's interesting how you always try to insert your "anti psytrance" views everywhere on Isra. And your view essential being that the normal "raves" are better than psy parties, |
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I never said one was better than the other, I just argue that there are very few differences in the two...
We like the electronic style that fit our "musical education" and level of consciousness
personally I went, in early 1993, to house rave, hardcore, hardtech, spiral tribes free parties, trance core etc..
I enjoyed
discovering this style of parties but hated the musics
after a few months of going in parties with music I disliked, i attended a pure goa party near paris, and it was a revelation for me...and so many others you are now listening the music of
Goa trance party, at least at that period, had NOTHING to do with other styles of rave
- completely different music
- completely different type of location
- completely different style of visual, batiks and decoration
- completely different vibrations
- even substances were different
- the movement of dancers, of dances are different
- in goa trance people were (are?) often dancing with the position of their body rising to skies
in hardcore/gabber/hardtech/trancecore parties lot of dancers were having pure chaotic disorders with bodies curving toward the ground
- a far more smiles on the lips
- the positive spiritual mutual experiences never happenned with visual of gore movies and music at 250 bpm
- it did happenned with goa trance master pieces between 130 to 148 bpm
goa trance parties, sometime, can be an harmonical convergence
a magical crossroad between human beings attending the party
a sharing of good vibrations dance and love
to get that, you need lot of elements
superb natural location
good djs
positive music
high quality sound system
amazing visual
trancers with good vibes
good astrological situation
etc...etc..
and no police to stop the party in the middle of the night for sure
I speak about what I know very well: the goa scene around 93/ 97
for what it is now, i dont know...
those pure incredible magical parties did happenned in the early 90s
and there's no reason why it could not happen anymore
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ajna
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 00:55
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On 2009-02-06 00:50, thegooddale wrote:
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On 2009-02-05 05:41, ohmshantiohm wrote:
It's interesting how you always try to insert your "anti psytrance" views everywhere on Isra. And your view essential being that the normal "raves" are better than psy parties, |
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"I never said one was better than the other, I just argue that there are very few differences in the two..."
We like the electronic style that fit our "musical education" and level of consciousness
personally I went, in early 1993, to house rave, hardcore, hardtech, spiral tribes free parties, trance core etc..
I enjoyed
discovering this style of parties but hated the musics
after a few months of going in parties with music I disliked, i attended a pure goa party near paris, and it was a revelation for me...and so many others you are now listening the music of
Goa trance party, at least at that period, had NOTHING to do with other styles of rave
- completely different music
- completely different type of location
- completely different style of visual, batiks and decoration
- completely different vibrations
- even substances were different
- the movement of dancers, of dances are different
- in goa trance people were (are?) often dancing with the position of their body rising to skies
in hardcore/gabber/hardtech/trancecore parties lot of dancers were having pure chaotic disorders with bodies curving toward the ground
- a far more smiles on the lips
- the positive spiritual mutual experiences never happenned with visual of gore movies and music at 250 bpm
- it did happenned with goa trance master pieces between 130 to 148 bpm
goa trance parties, sometime, can be an harmonical convergence
a magical crossroad between human beings attending the party
a sharing of good vibrations dance and love
to get that, you need lot of elements
superb natural location
good djs
positive music
high quality sound system
amazing visual
trancers with good vibes
good astrological situation
etc...etc..
and no police to stop the party in the middle of the night for sure
I speak about what I know very well: the goa scene around 93/ 97
for what it is now, i dont know...
those pure incredible magical parties did happenned in the early 90s
and there's no reason why it could not happen anymore
peace
light
love |
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 02:08
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I'd just like to say that the term "retard" is something I find really disgusting to be used as it has been in this topic.
Having worked within the Disability field for a number of years, this is discrimination of the highest order, and I'm sure it goes against the forum guidelines??
Where are the mods?
I have two family memebrs and my lifetime partner who have physical disabilties, and whilst they do not have mental retardation, the use of this term as an insult is very hurtful to all people who have a disability and to those that know them.
I again ask for the mods to remove those posts ot the people who posted using the term to remove it.
Thanks for you respect,
Buddha Monkey.
I hate you, you hate me, we are all so hap hap happy! |
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Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
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RK9
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I think that the psytrance scene should try to reach out to ravers and sow the seeds of spirituality and transcendence in other styles of music so that we can all dance together.
Rather than wall itself off and turn its nose up in contempt at the less enlightened.
Since other people are quoting song lyrics, let me give you an example of my own:
We all are a family that should stand together as one
helping each other instead of just wasting time
now is the moment to reach out to someone, it's all up to you!
when everyone's sharing their hope, then love will win through
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