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PsYmOrPh
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Posted : Sep 10, 2009 16:49
thanks people, now i read better the SCM text and i remeber something...some time ago i did one track in bassline D1 because D2 sounds more terrible than D1 ... now the track is not finished yet because the bassline dont sound good with the all track..now i'm clear about some ideas in bass eq and notes...really thanks
PoM
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Posted : Sep 14, 2009 17:59
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On 2009-09-08 08:53, subconsciousmind wrote:


A trick that is being done very often to overcome that is to use a fat and low kick which is very long. Almost 3/4. So most of the deep and fat bass comes from the kick. the bassline then can be on any scale that fits the kick more or less. Full-On often has such bass. Really low and long kick that makes the WOOM and very audible bassline that is not creating a lot of the vibration and such. I don't like that and that's why my answer is of course only for my taste of bass. People with different preferences will have different opinions.

Hope that helps.



about using long kick (maybe not 3/4 ) the cool thing is that is the kick that move the woofer moslty,not the kick+ bass ,it can sound more dynamic and fat,less flat that when the kick bass share same energy ,sound good for pumpy bassline ,dunno how to say i hope it make sense ..
aciduss
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Posted : Sep 14, 2009 22:41
I would like to read more comments about this long kick technique... specially from those who have heard that on PA because at the moment i prefer short kicks so its tail wont interfere with my bass fqncies.

I believe that average 145bpm psy should have shorter than 12-140ms kicks... but i talk from my amateur pov... that's why i'm asking 'pro' isratrancers to give advice around this..., specially at speedy kbbb... how could a long kick be a good idea? also how should u eq both of them.

BTW my last track bassline was D1 and i believe it was pretty nice n beaffy.
jizy
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Posted : Sep 15, 2009 05:40
All to do with taste I should imagine, long kick short tight bass line acidus.
subconsciousmind
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Posted : Sep 15, 2009 09:00
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On 2009-09-14 22:41, aciduss wrote:
I would like to read more comments about this long kick technique... specially from those who have heard that on PA because at the moment i prefer short kicks so its tail wont interfere with my bass fqncies.

I believe that average 145bpm psy should have shorter than 12-140ms kicks... but i talk from my amateur pov... that's why i'm asking 'pro' isratrancers to give advice around this..., specially at speedy kbbb... how could a long kick be a good idea? also how should u eq both of them.

BTW my last track bassline was D1 and i believe it was pretty nice n beaffy.



if you have longer kicks you will need to spend more time in tuning the kicks tail to the bassline.

1/4 in around 145 is 100ms. so the max kick length shouldn't be more than 400ms otherwise it would overlap itself.

If you had your bassline on "D" it is very probable that it wasn't a "D1" but a "D2" not all synths or synth presets produce the same octave when playing the "D1" note on the keyboard or sequencer. Maybe the oscillator was tuned an octave up or the synth simply does play an octave higher.           Most of my music for you to download at:
http://www.subconsciousmind.ch
aciduss
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Posted : Sep 15, 2009 09:16
Thanks bro!

And it was actually D1... darkbass
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