Chemogen
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Posted : Oct 23, 2012 02:13
And I've been trying all night trying to replicate a bass like this.
I just can't get it sounding as growly and as fat. It sounds like there's very slight cut-off tweakage with each note in the bar, sounds like each bass note falling on the off-beat filling up half a beat and definitely side-chained to the kick but I just can't get that clean, rumbly growl. I'm not sure if there's some saturation on there or if there're two bass tracks layered on top of each other or if it's just the fact that the kick suits the tone so perfectly but there's just something about that sound that's out of reach. Is it just a saw wave with the cutoff set quite low and without the usual amount of filter envelope depth that I'm used to for getting plucky rolling bass?
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Posted : Oct 23, 2012 19:15
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Posted : Oct 23, 2012 22:02
Oh man, normally I'm not the troll to say this, but all those examples hurt me.
Is that what "new" psytrance sounds like? No wonder I started listening to so-called "forest" stuff.
I saw a few of those artists live this summer and it was a whole load of "meh".
Alright, douchbaggery aside: I second the gentleman who said that having too many VSTs is your issue. From what I can tell, you are fairly new to producing psy or perhaps EDM in general.
A couple points worth noting (and pick ONE of your vsts to play with - learn it through and through):
-Tighten your filter envelope to get the snap. Also, set your osc to retrigger, but you can adjust the phase of it to change the initial "snap".
-Most of the bass patches in your example seem more EQ'ed than my tastes. Play around with it. I would start by some 3-5db cuts in the 100-1000hz range and see where you get.
-Some of these basses also sound saturated. Play around with your vst's saturation, or add some distortion. Multiband can work wonders if you got it. Again, learn the plugins you have - don't go looking for more.
-Beyond all else, mate, know this: I could literally send you a preset of one of these basses and it wouldn't sound the same unless you had the same velocity settings, EQ, articulation, compression, distortion, and the same kick drum to boot.
Oh, another fun tip: check your bassline with a lopass filter on your master channel (with the kick and bass) at about 100hz. You should be able to hear 4 notes for every kick - a kick and three basses. If you don't, your low end will sound like a proggy pumping sidechain bassline whilst your mids and highs KBBB away.
Oh, also: a lot of these tracks are using a substantial sidechain compression on their bass. The first bass note after the kick pumps up in volume - check the waveform in your DAW. But that is also a major part of the pumping sound these artists use.
Hope there was some help there.
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Posted : Oct 23, 2012 22:56
I just can't get it sounding as growly and as fat. It sounds like there's very slight cut-off tweakage with each note in the bar, sounds like each bass note falling on the off-beat filling up half a beat and definitely side-chained to the kick but I just can't get that clean, rumbly growl. I'm not sure if there's some saturation on there or if there're two bass tracks layered on top of each other or if it's just the fact that the kick suits the tone so perfectly but there's just something about that sound that's out of reach. Is it just a saw wave with the cutoff set quite low and without the usual amount of filter envelope depth that I'm used to for getting plucky rolling bass?
the bass not sure but this track sound all Ni massive to me, maybe give it a try.
lot at the comments seriourlsy..there is like 4 sounds in that sample and ppl write it s your best track ever. a unknow guy making this would have 3 comments and a hard time to release it
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Posted : Oct 23, 2012 23:21
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Chemogen
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I just can't get it sounding as growly and as fat. It sounds like there's very slight cut-off tweakage with each note in the bar, sounds like each bass note falling on the off-beat filling up half a beat and definitely side-chained to the kick but I just can't get that clean, rumbly growl. I'm not sure if there's some saturation on there or if there're two bass tracks layered on top of each other or if it's just the fact that the kick suits the tone so perfectly but there's just something about that sound that's out of reach. Is it just a saw wave with the cutoff set quite low and without the usual amount of filter envelope depth that I'm used to for getting plucky rolling bass?
the bass not sure but this track sound all Ni massive to me, maybe give it a try.
lot at the comments seriourlsy..there is like 4 sounds in that sample and ppl write it s your best track ever. a unknow guy making this would have 3 comments and a hard time to release it
Yeah I find the whole track a bit boring, not really my style but that bass is just so damn fat.
i must work on more in compression...distortion eq and some other things...but the bassline i think that is very similar
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Posted : Oct 26, 2012 11:14
I'd take away some of the low end of the bass to give it a little more presence while avoiding the rumble. And definitely work on the kick - for me it sounds way off in the mix. This might be caused by the overlapping of the low freqs of the kick with the bass. So you could try to make the kick shorter and check if it sounds better to you.
