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bassline loses character when i shift it up or down
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astrotec
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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 21:57
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i was wondering how i could solve this problem, my bassline loses weight and punchyness when i shift it up and down in the notes. |
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 22:37
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Couple options:
-Tweak the velocity of other notes to make them similar in energy/intensity
-Create a seperate bass channel/VST for each note, copy the EQ/compression, and tweak for these new notes. In a fantasy world I do this for each track as it's the sonically pure solution. In reality I adjust the velocity.
-Run it through a compressor and MAKE all the notes the same volume. This will kill a lot of character though. |
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astrotec
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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 22:49
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so create a separate channel for every single different note? or just wen i move the whole bar of notes up or down? Thanks. |
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mk47
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Posted : Apr 28, 2007 06:21
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i think it may have something to do with the room acoustics .. try listening to it in different environments .. car , hi - fi , another studio , pair of pair monitors etc ..
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Alex - Aural Invasion
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Posted : Apr 28, 2007 09:13
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yeah mk47, a room can really fool you!
try make a solid synthbass preset, with the correct patch, correct EQ, and good compression you won't loose anything by going up and down in notes really, just don't move to far up from the original key, then you should be fine.
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dtd
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Posted : Apr 28, 2007 10:33
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astrotec,
try the following: sit at your listening spot and play notes with your bass patch from somewhere below your desired note to somewhere above it. listen. if you notice that the bass is very strong (whoomp!) on a certain note, and weak on others, you got some nastly room acoustic problems. you're either sitting in a node of a standing wave, or in the anti-node, or in between, depending on the note value (= frequency). also try this with a pure sine wave, where the experiment works best due to no higher harmonics. if you noticed severe variations in loudness, you might want to treat your listening environment for improved room acoustics.
cheers,
dtd
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Alex - Aural Invasion
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Posted : Apr 28, 2007 11:44
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dtd: good advise, and speaking of sine wave sweeps, you got any?
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dtd
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Posted : Apr 28, 2007 12:43
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dtd: good advise, and speaking of sine wave sweeps, you got any?
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you mean a WAV file containing a freq-modulated sine wave? sorry haven't got.
if you want to make one for you, you can for example use a sine wav osc and then attach a slow pitch modulation to it and record it. or you could also quickly assign the pitch bend wheel to the sine wave frequency and bend it for 'continuous' frequency modulation (as opposed to semitone stepping), set the pitch bend range to e.g. -12 to +12 semitones to sweep over a range of two octaves. that way you can also stop at problem points and sweep around them etc 
best,
dtd
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faxinadu
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Posted : Apr 28, 2007 13:22
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Alex - Aural Invasion
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Posted : Apr 28, 2007 13:33
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On 2007-04-28 11:44, Alex - Aural Invasion wrote:
dtd: good advise, and speaking of sine wave sweeps, you got any?
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you mean a WAV file containing a freq-modulated sine wave? sorry haven't got.
if you want to make one for you, you can for example use a sine wav osc and then attach a slow pitch modulation to it and record it. or you could also quickly assign the pitch bend wheel to the sine wave frequency and bend it for 'continuous' frequency modulation (as opposed to semitone stepping), set the pitch bend range to e.g. -12 to +12 semitones to sweep over a range of two octaves. that way you can also stop at problem points and sweep around them etc
best,
dtd
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i'm just lazy i guess
No, i mean it would be nice to have one that im 100% sure goes from ex. 30-20.000hertz, i'll google a bit and see if i can find one, then i'll link to it.
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Alex - Aural Invasion
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Posted : Apr 28, 2007 13:33
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Elad
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Posted : Apr 28, 2007 15:37
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jivamukti
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Posted : Apr 28, 2007 17:19
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On 2007-04-27 21:57, astrotec wrote:
i was wondering how i could solve this problem, my bassline loses weight and punchyness when i shift it up and down in the notes.
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One-note basslines FTW!
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Posted : Apr 28, 2007 19:33
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astrotec
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Posted : Apr 28, 2007 21:21
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i dont think its the room acoustics, because when i play other pro tracks, it don't do this. |
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