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bassline in 13 monkeys?

Get-a-fix
Getafix

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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 02:56
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On 2007-04-19 14:56, shamantrixx wrote:
btw: one Eskimo is really more than enough for a planet of this size



Hehehe

Btw i've also heard that eskimo layers several tau's sometimes without eq! Don't know how true that is but anyway the dude makes some awesome basslines sometimes! I still prefer his first album over his newer stuff though..If we get lucky he might pop in like Domestic and give us a few pointers!

Haven't heard this track though..
          http://www.soundcloud.com/getafixmusic
shamantrixx


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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 06:49
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On 2007-04-20 02:05, sy000321 wrote:
shamantrixx, that's a too negative...


There is no negative or positive. When you see something as positive or negative you really fail to see the essence and you're looking at your system of believe. It's just endless dialectics.

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On 2007-04-20 02:05, sy000321 wrote:
ok, he could have googled for it, but no need to use such quote...



A virtue of society (and this forum is a form of virtual society) is measured by it's weakest individuals. Once you apply any kind of pressure to it that points brake and we stop being society and return to individual mode. So setting a standards and maintaining objective criticism is the only way to raise the virtue and value of society.

What we tolerate today is what we'll become tomorrow.

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On 2007-04-20 02:05, sy000321 wrote:
even pros make such questions, why shouldnt a noob do it?



Because evolution of society, individual, humanity and music is all about doing it each time better than before. By accepting good enough or almost good as pro (whatever "pro" should mean anyway) we fail to do even as good as before. And I think that we've been down that road more than enough.

Not so long ago I was amazed by the quality of information shared on this forum. Now I'm amazed by the quantity of tolerance towards the ignorance and by ridiculing or judging any act in the opposite direction.

So feel free to exercise your right to tolerate and try to tolerate others rights too. Even when it's a right to criticize the same thing you're willing to tolerate.           "It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"

Albert Einstein, speaking about his theory of relativity
Saf


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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 10:33
Shamantrixx do you have any music online for download?
sy000321
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 12:57

fuck shamantrixx, what a big load of crap.

that post reads like some fascist guide to eugenics and that is completely intolerable.

when i entered this forum there was no "begginers not allowed" sign.

im out off this thread now.           roll a joint or STFU :)
galactic monkey
Galactic Monkey

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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 13:23
cheers for that anyway guys

peace! www.myspace.com/galacticmonk3y
shamantrixx


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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 15:41
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On 2007-04-20 10:33, Saf wrote:
Shamantrixx do you have any music online for download?



Yes but I'm sending links only when asked and only by PM or mail. So I can send you link if you want, but until I do it better than before - no public links from me There's enough lousy music around.           "It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"

Albert Einstein, speaking about his theory of relativity
shamantrixx


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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 16:05
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On 2007-04-20 12:57, sy000321 wrote:
that post reads like some fascist guide to eugenics and that is completely intolerable.



The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.
Friedrich Nietzsche

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On 2007-04-20 12:57, sy000321 wrote:
when i entered this forum there was no "begginers not allowed" sign.



So asking questions rather than using Google qualifies you as a beginner? I don't think so. You're acting on faith, and faith is nothing more than effort for not seeing the facts.

Not knowing is not a sin... but the lack of intentionality and dedication is something quite different.           "It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"

Albert Einstein, speaking about his theory of relativity
UnderTow


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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 17:16
shamantrixx , you are being a bore again.

The number of times you mention uniqueness or originality makes me supsect that you are not achieveing a unique sound and it is pissing you off to no end. Maybe you don't even realise it yourself... or maybe you do.

Repeating the "be unique" mantra is allready a cheap parroting of others. You are not being unique OR original by saying this.

You say yourself while talking about your own music "There's enough lousy music around." which basicly means that you are in no position to tell others what to do.

So don't.

Anyway, it is good to learn the basics and copy the masters first and then, when one understands how to achieve certain results, twist the rules to achieve your own unique blend.

Do you think Mozart or Bethoven started off by composing entire symphonies? Or did they start by learning to play the piano/harpischord and basic music theory?

UnderTow
galactic monkey
Galactic Monkey

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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 17:23
undertow you rock man!cheers for your support bro,and it its like you said it aint about copying its about learning how to do something then moving on! check out my new track 'make or break' and tell me if im going in the right direction i would really appreciate that

www.myspace.com/galacticmonk3y

peace bro!
Alias
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 17:32
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On 2007-04-20 17:16, UnderTow wrote:
shamantrixx , you are being a bore again.

The number of times you mention uniqueness or originality makes me supsect that you are not achieveing a unique sound and it is pissing you off to no end. Maybe you don't even realise it yourself... or maybe you do.

Repeating the "be unique" mantra is allready a cheap parroting of others. You are not being unique OR original by saying this.

You say yourself while talking about your own music "There's enough lousy music around." which basicly means that you are in no position to tell others what to do.

So don't.

Anyway, it is good to learn the basics and copy the masters first and then, when one understands how to achieve certain results, twist the rules to achieve your own unique blend.

Do you think Mozart or Bethoven started off by composing entire symphonies? Or did they start by learning to play the piano/harpischord and basic music theory?

UnderTow



woooooooow
nothing more to say!           www.myspace.com/aliasix
galactic monkey
Galactic Monkey

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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 17:42
cheers alias thx for all your support!!!
still cant believe you dont have a label man

UnderTow


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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 18:42
Hey Galactic Monkey,

All comments based on listening through the MySpace compression.

The first thing I noticed is that your bassline is quite dull sounding. (Lack of high frequencies). I would try opening the filter a touch more. I think this will balance the bass better with the kick-drum. You might even want to make the level of the bass a touch higher but that depends on how it sounds with a bit more high freq.

Also try lowering the velocity of the first bass note between the kicks. I think that will make it a bit more bouncy. Unless you are not going for a bouncy feel.

Also try a few note variations at the end of 8 or 16 bars. Just to give a bit of an accent at the end of each "phrase". It is very continuous as is. You could also try adding another instrument that adds a rythmic accent every so often (see my demo below).

You snare sounds weak and lacks presence (high-mid and high frequencies). That could be the MySpace compression but I doubt it. It is also quite soft in volume. I like my snares to smack.

For the rest, keep it up!

Here is something a small section of something I started today (Melodies muted for demonstration purpouses):

http://www.puretone.nl/BlaBlaBla.mp3


UnderTow
Alias
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 19:16
agree with undertow.....respect to you man!

also try to boost decay envelope.....just little touch
try to put some multiband distortion on the bass
put another clap layer on your snare

in the end......its all about experiments

undertow:
good stuff man... especially amazing drums perc work...but there is some noises
maybe some freqs battles or bad mixdown export?

galactic monkey:
i no need labels....because i making music for fun!


cheers!
          www.myspace.com/aliasix
UnderTow


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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 20:36
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On 2007-04-20 19:16, Alias wrote:
undertow:
good stuff man... especially amazing drums perc work...



Thanks.

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but there is some noises
maybe some freqs battles or bad mixdown export?



Oh sure. It isn't properly mixed yet. I just wanted to demonstrate that bassy kind of sound that overlays the bass every 8 bars (I think).

Or did you mean that 16th note noise burst with the reso filter on it?

UnderTow
shamantrixx


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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 21:02
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On 2007-04-20 17:16, UnderTow wrote:
The number of times you mention uniqueness or originality...



Let's see... I've mentioned it exactly ZERO times. So as usual you're not even reading what others write and you're just blowing hot air

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On 2007-04-20 17:16, UnderTow wrote:
Repeating the "be unique" mantra is allready a cheap parroting of others. You are not being unique OR original by saying this.


The only one repeating it self is you man. Open your eyes

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On 2007-04-20 17:16, UnderTow wrote:
You say yourself while talking about your own music "There's enough lousy music around." which basicly means that you are in no position to tell others what to do.



So only the architect of the BMW is in the position to comment a quality of a vehicle and the driving techniques? Or you're just full of shit as usual?

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On 2007-04-20 17:16, UnderTow wrote:
Anyway, it is good to learn the basics and copy the masters first and then, when one understands how to achieve certain results, twist the rules to achieve your own unique blend.

Do you think Mozart or Bethoven started off by composing entire symphonies? Or did they start by learning to play the piano/harpischord and basic music theory?



Oh now I see. You are completely retarded! You've mistaken Google for Bethoven and you think with your ass instead with your head. Otherwise you would notice that my posts had nothing to do with uniqueness, originality and composing symphonies. Get your self a brain!

Anyway... don't you have some primitive culture to conquer?           "It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"

Albert Einstein, speaking about his theory of relativity
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