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Bass + Leadmelody = Flanging
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orgytime
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Posted : Jun 16, 2009 13:31:23
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hi guys,
sometimes when i play my bass and melody at the same time, there appears unwanted flanging.
sounds like, if you take 2 osc with sawtooth and detune one osc a little bit.
what is the trick to avoid this effect?
right EQing, Pan ?
cheers
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kaidun
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Posted : Jun 16, 2009 13:43
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try low cut on the lead and maybe highcut on the bass.. |
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orgytime
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Posted : Jun 16, 2009 13:54
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On 2009-06-16 13:43, kaidun wrote:
try low cut on the lead and maybe highcut on the bass..
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^^sounds logical, but i dont want to miss those freqs...
i got highpass on the lead, and not to much highs in the bass.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jun 16, 2009 18:31
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You need to make sure the oscillators of both the leadline and bassline, always start from the same phase at each note trigger.
You can't get around this by EQing really, as your bassline range goes from the bottom end to the high mids.
Anyhow, speaking from my self, this flanging effect that I get from layering lead lines that play the same midi file over the bassline, is one of my favourite things.
With careful synth programming and mixing, you can make the leadline an intergral part of the bassline, sort of like its there, but it just sounds like the mids/high of the bassline are more rich in texture than your common 16th single saw bass, and is massive in the stereo image, whilst the bottom end is solid in the middle.
+ you can apply a hint of reverb and/or delay to the leadline that is layered with the bassline to give the main riff some serious depth, without making the bass, messy.
But its all down to taste.
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orgytime
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Posted : Jun 17, 2009 01:11
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On 2009-06-16 18:31, disco hooligans wrote:
You need to make sure the oscillators of both the leadline and bassline, always start from the same phase at each note trigger.
You can't get around this by EQing really, as your bassline range goes from the bottom end to the high mids.
Anyhow, speaking from my self, this flanging effect that I get from layering lead lines that play the same midi file over the bassline, is one of my favourite things.
With careful synth programming and mixing, you can make the leadline an intergral part of the bassline, sort of like its there, but it just sounds like the mids/high of the bassline are more rich in texture than your common 16th single saw bass, and is massive in the stereo image, whilst the bottom end is solid in the middle.
+ you can apply a hint of reverb and/or delay to the leadline that is layered with the bassline to give the main riff some serious depth, without making the bass, messy.
But its all down to taste.
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sounds nice, thanks!
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aXis
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Posted : Jun 18, 2009 09:40
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ur using a sine wav. |
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Elad
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Posted : Jun 18, 2009 12:26
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On 2009-06-16 18:31, disco hooligans wrote:
You need to make sure the oscillators of both the leadline and bassline, always start from the same phase at each note trigger.
You can't get around this by EQing really, as your bassline range goes from the bottom end to the high mids.
Anyhow, speaking from my self, this flanging effect that I get from layering lead lines that play the same midi file over the bassline, is one of my favourite things.
With careful synth programming and mixing, you can make the leadline an intergral part of the bassline, sort of like its there, but it just sounds like the mids/high of the bassline are more rich in texture than your common 16th single saw bass, and is massive in the stereo image, whilst the bottom end is solid in the middle.
+ you can apply a hint of reverb and/or delay to the leadline that is layered with the bassline to give the main riff some serious depth, without making the bass, messy.
But its all down to taste.
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great post
yeah its about hard sync the leads and bass..
also i like to give filtered delay on basses latly.. with nice HP filter on it.. very shpongly and sounds great.
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jizy
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Posted : Jun 18, 2009 13:30
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ive been using elevantya wider boy pro on basslines, i spose u can split the bass in a band between 120hz-80000k or whatever and send to own fx aux along with that lead and deploy The widerboy pro on that channel.
lo end still rock solid whilst now your lead and hi end bass line are now fuking wide together.
hmm good ideA i must now try that hehe
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