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Bass Dynamicism

Acoustic Freak


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Posted : May 22, 2011 16:38:34
Greetings,
would like to begin by thanking this great community for so much knowledge provided and for the occasional smile with some quite hilarious topics (such as most embarrasing DJ moments)

Anyways, my question is about groovy basslines. What exactly I am reffering to is this sort of groovyness (Brain Hunters - Black Box) first drop at 48 seconds stays the same throughout most of the song):





How exactly is it that groovyness achieved?

I have tried note velocity modulating the cutoff, different notes and various bass timbres.
In my opinion please do correct me if I am wrong it is most probably velocity sensitive but perhaps with an insert such as a Suger Bytes's WOW automated on third and fourth bass note?

thanks in advance,

Rodrigo
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supergroover
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Posted : May 22, 2011 17:59
Maybe it is two different basslines with a little bit different processing or some differerent setting in the envelope.           soundcloud.com/supergroover
Freeflow
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Posted : May 22, 2011 18:18
Experiment more, As i dont find the bass too attractive i dont really feel like replicating it. Just sit down and play around.

But first listen to the bass notes, and try and get them right, then you can experiment with timbre, then when you got that you can experiment with velocity and finally effects processing.

And like we often talk about, the kick has a major importance for the groove and feeling of the baseline,
So really much importance goes to the kick. I dont think there some tricky velocity settings, just some simple settings, best is if you try some scheme´s

like
High, medium, High
or
High, High, Low
Low, medium, High
Low, High, Low
High, Low, medium
then you can go deeper and make different for each beat..

experiment and see what kinds of grooves you can emphasis with velocity. But i think you get it super groovy and funky if you play with notelength also.
And like you say automate filter. You can really go creative here and automate almost anything, from a synth parameter to a Effect.

But this bass dont sound too complicated, but that is sometime the most hard things to crack.
Acoustic Freak


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Posted : May 22, 2011 19:11
Thanks for the steady reply!
Freeflow just words I needed to hear...gracie! tried varying the notelengths and loving the results!
have a good day

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PoM
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Posted : May 22, 2011 19:31
velocitie and note lenght to me.
Obelizk
Amoeba

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Posted : May 22, 2011 20:01
i like it. the cutoff's pretty open/high on the lowpass filter. The decay you have linked to the filter envelope is higher than usual for psy, so it doesn't have as much snap. EQ the highs out a bit from having the cutoff a little higher than usual. Then you should have something similar to this.

Maybe a little res too, and probably a 12db lowpass cutoff instead of a 24db to keep harmonics.           www.musicproductionnatural.com || www.facebook.com/djamoeba | facebook page
Obelizk
Amoeba

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Posted : May 23, 2011 06:26
http://www.sendspace.com/file/owuxxm

Here's the preset for sylenth1

I just made it. It's almost completely identical.

then there's another one, with 2 saw waveforms phased a little bit.

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Obelizk
Amoeba

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Posted : May 23, 2011 08:04
just add sidechaining, and some EQing. maybe some slight vintage distortion and portamento for the slides.


I just put together something short with this bass for fun.

This is what the bass sounds like.

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supergroover
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Posted : May 23, 2011 10:41
Wow that is a really good result obelizk! Nice one!           soundcloud.com/supergroover
Acoustic Freak


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Posted : May 23, 2011 17:39
just tried your presets Obelizk and indeed quite identical. Good work! Ends up being quite simple settings actually, and I was on an on about velocity seems like Freeflow was quite right that sometimes the most simple ones are the hardest to crack!

anyways, ought to let the music flow!

safe Rodrigo           A wise man of the arts once said that an artist never finishes his work he just abandons it!
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