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br0d
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Posted : Mar 30, 2005 10:56
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Chuck D: Bass...how low can you go?
Me: Sorry Chuck, I don't wanna know
Me: I've only got so much headroom y0
Seriously, try this. Do you have Waves Q10 or any multi eq with really steep (18db/oct or more) filters?
Take your whole song and LPF it at like 80Hz.
Then, HPF it at 80Hz. Now drag the HPF down slowly until you reach its lower limit, maybe 20Hz. Now bypass it. What's really there? Ok, there is definitely some bass there. But at what point does it stop sounding like your bassline, and start sounding like a generic LF rumble? This is not always found at the same frequency, and has a bit to do with the envelope/duration/pitch of the source bass sounds. This rumble point is the point at which your bass becomes useless, and in my experience, it is always above 30Hz but below 60Hz.
"The maximal frequency at which you can highpass your bass which results in the minimal audible loss of bass, which salvages the most mix headroom," is always going to be the optimal choice. And of course, programming to reduce rumble from the getgo, by using "tight" sounds is always preferable to using a processor to get rid of it later.
Paulo: That is generally a good idea in cases where the instruments are all being hipassed at the same freq, if you strap a buncha filters in at the same freq there is a consensus (I personally can't hear it) that you can end up with unwanted filter distortion. But some instruments will be hipassed higher, and have to be done on the instrument channels. |
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billy ambulance
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Posted : Mar 30, 2005 11:46
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ive noticed that some filters, when you apply HPF, cut the bass in a nasty way that makes "clicks".
choose your point of hi-passin wisely.
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Top-down
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Posted : Mar 30, 2005 12:45
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It all sounds right, but too "Black&White" (below 60 - get rid !). Sometimes its good to HP a bit lower and add 4-6 db LowShelf above.
That rumble you, Br0d mentioned may sound bad standalone, but be needed as lowend of the mix.
Just don't overdo this "bass castrating" trend.
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