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Surrender
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Posted : Mar 28, 2005 19:03
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i think my bass is flooding the mix... it sounds good in the studio but when i burn it on cd the bass is unclear and the rest of the mix sounds in the back.
at first i thought i just need to increase my bass more cause everything was low - but that made things actually worse - so a afriend suggested my base is flooding the mix. how can i avoid this? i dont hear the diffrences between flood and not.
  "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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orik
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Posted : Mar 28, 2005 19:28
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after you bounce it down, does it sound good in the
studio?
if your using an older version of cubase it might be
that the summing up in the master output is fucked up in someway (happend to me once after bouncing a mix, it sounded completely differnt and the mid
was seriousely attenuated) if its not this,
you should cut uf some of the boomy frequencies
of your base, 60-70 hz and below, see what it does,
check out that you dont have a boost arount 4khz
in your bass, a thing that brings the bass forword in your face...etc....i just dont know how your bass is structured so its a bit hard to comment...
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psypox
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Posted : Mar 28, 2005 19:43
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Posted : Mar 28, 2005 19:58
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orik - yeah it sounds fabulous in sound forge even after L2 it still sounds punchy and clear.
i will however check to see the lower freq's with an analyzer to see if its peaking there too much.
psypox- its possible that its accoustics - perhaps my ear isnt trained enough to hear those subtle bass changes yet.... also each monitor is diffrent... i have to learn them better.
thanks for the advice guys. "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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psypox
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Posted : Mar 28, 2005 20:10
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now that i see you talking about you using L2..
dunno if its me who cant get a good sound out if the beast..
but i would rather use a clean mix that using anything i have made with L2 ^^
my music sounds wierd and not good when i have tryed to use L2/L3
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Surrender
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Posted : Mar 28, 2005 21:01
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when i make a cd for a test run in the car i make 2 versions, one with L2 one without..... so i just meant to say that even with L2 it sounds ok in the studio but again - sounds weak and weird in the car.
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CLAW
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Posted : Mar 28, 2005 22:21
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check the mix with good pair of headphones. I always do that before finishing the mix. the headphones will tell you that you have a bass flood by distorting the whole mix, cause they can't handle bass flood like big monitors.
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Colin OOOD
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Elad
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oki let me tell u after had the same problem execly...
its probably not dynaudio u work with.. so your bass isnt clear as u wish... usr Rbass move it on 40-50 u probably wont hear the change..
also acoustic probably isnt correct ..
as i learned too much bass realy can fuck the WHOLE mix!! like oooooooo on the sub...
the simple answer :
listen to infected.
dont u hear its all abit hipass on monitor?
like u can add basses with eq and it will only sound better?
so i tried... i realu get hipass (around 35hz-50hz) on bass and kick will give it more power in 80-200 and here is the magic 
also offcourse if kick and bass play together... 
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Surrender
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 04:16
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hi tsabeat!
well i do have dynaudio's bm6a actually... but sure i can use some eq to highpass the very low - that sounds like a good idea..... i have recently put acoustics in my studio so i think its doing a good job.... i do use rbass hehe u seem to nail it right ont.
Colin - i always compare my track to something really well mastered, its a good idea indeed.
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billy ambulance
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 13:02
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bass is indeed an issue...
what i do is listen to a bass that i like and than i work on my bass until it sounds good enough, even if it take me 2 hours i dont stop until its fine.
the problem that you mention is probally from a bad mix. cut lows from your parts and rise the gain higher so they will get "out" after export.
even though it been dicussed i`ll put some more tips on basslines..
frequeincies under 35hz takes energy from your mix because they harder to produced.
get rid of them in every part you make.
sometimes boosting around 1 kilo can add some more clearens to your bass
bass sound takes more headroom from you mix and it realy tend to take over the whole mix.
maybe in you mind you want your bass to sound like at a party but accutally you need it to sound right. which means - in a good balance between your other parts. |
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psypox
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 16:15
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On 2005-03-28 21:01, Surrender wrote:
when i make a cd for a test run in the car i make 2 versions, one with L2 one without..... so i just meant to say that even with L2 it sounds ok in the studio but again - sounds weak and weird in the car.
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well i know that in a car the bass can be very radical..
try it on a PA or another music system.
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bandarlog
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 18:41
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On 2005-03-29 01:06, tsabeat wrote:
dont u hear its all abit hipass on monitor?
like u can add basses with eq and it will only sound better?
so i tried... i realu get hipass (around 35hz-50hz) on bass and kick will give it more power in 80-200 and here is the magic
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On 2005-03-29 13:02, billy ambulance wrote:
cut lows from your parts and rise the gain higher so they will get "out" after export.
frequeincies under 35hz takes energy from your mix because they harder to produced.
get rid of them in every part you make.
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Totally agree with both! Maybe some people with a very good studio can handle subs but I find it better to cut them in every sound. Gives you more room and once on a pa there's enough power with >50hz (so it seems).
I put bass and kick together(after eq'ing them seperately) through C4 and there I switch off everything below 40hz (again). |
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Posted : Mar 30, 2005 01:55
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ahem...
why not put and EQ in the master channel with Hipass and get rid of anything below 35 instead of doing it to each instrument one by one ???? |
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