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routingwithin
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Posted : May 21, 2016 20:47:25
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Hi guys, hope all is well
I need to get back to my roots. I use to compose fairly nice tracks n all but lately i am suck in the loop of quality. I understand that balance is key but i am struggling with continuing with a loop cause the quality is not like the greatsssssss.
It could be my room harmonics or it could be that i am too lazy to put in complete effort into every aspect of the samples or midi synth patterns.... or it could be that i have lost interest in music production due to my age, but I just fcuking don't want to give up u know...
I think that psytrance is the only music and the best music that exists in this world and reality, taking into consideration each to its own.
I know a shit load when it comes to sound production but lately I can't seem to get myself past building a tune. So no I am not asking for production tips cause I probly know it already- not to sound smug or anything. I kinda need spiritual guidance or maybe something that can spark some creativity into this melon of mine.
cheers
  " We are together in this matter you and I, closer to death, yes, closer than i'd like. How do you feel? - There can be no division in our actions, or everything is lost. What affects you affects me. " |
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moki
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Posted : May 21, 2016 21:45
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On 2016-05-21 20:47:25, routingwithin wrote:
I kinda need spiritual guidance or maybe something that can spark some creativity into this melon of mine.
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Spiritual guidance out of your melon comes from within. Imagine, the ready track that you could produce has a certain power to resonate in harmony with your very inner being and thus charge your battery for more energy, motivation, braveness, hands on, happiness factor on everyday life. Imagine, if only you could finish the track, by playing it the track would charge your energy battery, give you strength in life, patience to cope with anything on your way. ALternativily, if you don't finish the track, your energy factor will be intermediate, you would suffer on the idea that you fucking failed to continue the loop one more time, one of hundreds. And you won't find satisfaction in any other activity which you use to replace your need to finish your track. This alternative is bad anyway.
So discipline is better, because it is a karma seed and you always gather some form of fruits out of the seeds...
As you don't want a comment on the sound production part, I will not elaborate on the "greatssss". But certainly the "greats" are a part of anether time slot, not ours right now. There are currently no "greats" anymore. So prepared, not to expect immensely large crowds, you may be concentrate on the issues of importance. Like what do you want to tell this small crowd that you would reach? Would you feel better if you never express in music what you wanted to tell to your listeners? To the fellow men on the planet? To those left?
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Blubberbert
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Posted : May 22, 2016 01:57
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Maybe find someone for a collab. Try and plan a whole track from imagination. For example from an inner picture of a landscape. Imagine the main leads and fx beforehand and do the patches and all before even beginning to write. Thats what gave me new drive as of lately. |
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basefree
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Posted : May 22, 2016 20:50
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I kinda need spiritual guidance or maybe something that can spark some creativity into this melon of mine.
cheers
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Here are some things that have helped me when dealing with this type of issue:
1) Just take a break. Taking a break gives you the time to you need to get perspective on what is is you would like to do creatively. Ask yourself: "When was the last time I had a thought about a track on the couch that was a genuinely uninhibited creative inspiration?" If you haven't had one of these in a while, I'd recommend taking some time off and doing something else!
2) Just have fun! Inspiration is what got you into music in the first place most likely and fun is what made you continue to learn how to produce--from learning your first filter onward; so, in that light, try just having fun with what your working on. Try injecting something new...something that challenges you in a way that makes you want to learn how to evolve with it.
3) Last but not least...it can help to just fuck up what you're working on! Make another version of your file, so that you still have the original, and just go to town on all of the things you haven't done yet. Throw effect automation in places you haven't before, eq something crazy, mess around with 100% wet reverb basslines...go crazy!
I hope that you find peace in this my friend.
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moki
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Posted : May 22, 2016 22:49
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it helps if you get a real instrument and try to play only on it for a while. a story is then born easier. it can be anything: flute, guitar, keyboard, whatever you find. then get back to the loop and be fascinated with the variety of possibilities electronic music has to offer in comparison to your instrument. if it doesn't help, then leave the loop with the promise to come later and fix it, in case you are ready with a dozen of new loops and in case you feel good enough to make the track belong to the greats. till then, you'd just move on to the next loop and leave it again in few days to begin the third loop. if you reach 20 you go back to the first one.
btw regarding the suggestion to find someone to make tracks with: ist there a plattform, or any reasonable groups, meet ups, whatever, to find others?
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routingwithin
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Posted : May 24, 2016 15:26
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Thanks for the replies. Good words all over.
The problem is I have a really solid knb + perc - it's more about the intro, break and all that- that eludes me.
The other thing is quality. Due to the fact that I put so much effort into the knb + perc any other sound just sounds crappy when I add it. Like adding mediocre sounds to a very nice sounding loop.
This then makes me realize that the effort I put in to reach the loop will have to be applied to each and every sound.
Which just gives me an overall feeling of dread, cause everything needs to be as good as the rest - otherwise the whole track is not living up to it's potential.
Thanks again
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Xsze
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Posted : May 30, 2016 01:25
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On 2016-05-24 15:26, routingwithin wrote:
Due to the fact that I put so much effort into the knb + perc any other sound just sounds crappy when I add it. Like adding mediocre sounds to a very nice sounding loop.
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Well, you are aware where the problem is and answer is that simple, don't mix, over-process and over-cook in composition and arranging phase, it's that simple really, treat it as rough idea until you make it, really, you know you can make it sound better, so why is that making problem for you and why are you loosing confidence, you will get there, but if there isn't anything to polish, than, yeah.
Seriously try to make rough track as fast as you can, it will set you free from that perfectionism, imagine you have someone over your shoulders and he isn't happy when you are taking long to make a progress, sounds like horror and probably it is, but try making that guy happy and you will be happy too, learned more from making music for people in front of people than making music for myself alone.
But, take a break from this, you aren't disappointing anyone doing that, goal isn't having tracks sounding like what's out there, goal is to have fun in this miserable world, don't make music pain too, music should be exit, so enjoy in it, enjoy in all knowing there's some guy somewhere making worst stuff than you, but feeling way better about opportunity to do that.
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routingwithin
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Posted : May 30, 2016 11:43
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On 2016-05-30 01:25, Xsze wrote:
Seriously try to make rough track as fast as you can, it will set you free from that perfectionism, imagine you have someone over your shoulders and he isn't happy when you are taking long to make a progress, sounds like horror and probably it is, but try making that guy happy and you will be happy too, learned more from making music for people in front of people than making music for myself alone.
But, take a break from this, you aren't disappointing anyone doing that, goal isn't having tracks sounding like what's out there, goal is to have fun in this miserable world, don't make music pain too, music should be exit, so enjoy in it, enjoy in all knowing there's some guy somewhere making worst stuff than you, but feeling way better about opportunity to do that.
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Haha, cheers man this sounds like a plan, thanks.
" We are together in this matter you and I, closer to death, yes, closer than i'd like. How do you feel? - There can be no division in our actions, or everything is lost. What affects you affects me. " |
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