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Austrian Psytrance... only 160-170bpm ??

orgytime
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Jan 30, 2009 14:33:42
Hi guys, i live in Innsbruck,Austria,Europe.

I went to my first real Psy-Party on 31.12.2008 in the Olympic-Halle (they said its the best Psy-Party of the year here).

The music was always about 160-170bpm the whole night long, and i heard from people that the producers here only like this dark, fast stuff.

but, i listen to popular things like Eskimo, Astrix, Vibe Tribe, GMS... and those are all about 145bpm.

its such a huge step from 145bpm to 160bpm, i cant take...
i mean, its like you listening to metal, and then going to a death-metal party.

is this a trend on the whole world, or just here, that psytrance is going to be dark and fast?

ppl will hate me here, if i just change my bassnote harmonical once and put 3 different synth notes together in a track (>**)>

cheers
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klippel
Stereofeld

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Posted : Jan 30, 2009 14:47
hi dude,
well dark psy or whatever you want to call it has become quite popular everywhere on this planet.. (i´m german btw) most of the time at bigger events they will play dark on on floor and "regular full on" or progressive on another floor.. so you can choose...

actually dark psy is not my cup of tee. i cannot listen to it at all, it´s a too big step from "normal psy" to dark for me too, as you said it is for you..
i would not even call this trance anymore, has more the hardcore character i know from the early 90s blended with trancey kicks and noises.. anyway let´s not get into a pro/con dark psy discussion. a lot of people like it, so it has its right to be played!


nevertheless is does affect the party planning for somebody like me who could go to basically any psy party before lets say 2004 or 2005...

now i do really check the line up of a party and if they play only dark psy i won´t go because it makes me agressive, i cannot stand it...

you see you are not the only one who thinks like that, just carefully check out the suitable events for you and you won´t be dissappointed..
Brain_Train


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Posted : Jan 30, 2009 14:47
hi there
so, i'm living right next to you in germany, there also was a trend to do dark parties, some years ago they played it at every bigger party...
but if you search for parties with other style of psytrance you will find for sure...just check goabase. i don't think it should be a problem in austria.

and don't care about what people think of the music you make. it's your music...if you don't like dark and higher bpm's, just don't make it
PsiloCybian
Mammal Footwork

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Posted : Jan 30, 2009 14:50
we have a loudness war and now artists are starting bpm war

some people think they need to cranck up the volume to get the people excited and some people think they need a synth line that sounds like a AK47 to get the people moving

there are shure some great tracks with high bpm count but as for me I am not a duracell bunny to dance all night long like a im having an epileptic attack

but thats just me
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Tribute
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jan 30, 2009 14:55
yeah we have this trend too here in switzerland.
alot of big partys here are playing dark trough the night.. i dont like it at all^^

but hey dont let you bring of from you way, make music only YOU like and when you like it, im sure there are others who like it to
and for partying, just watch the linup and listen to their´s myspace is a good thing, then you know if its worth going or not

145 ftw
x-rayz
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Posted : Jan 30, 2009 15:14
what is worst in the whole story is cranking great progressive tracks from original 135 to more than 145 bpms to make them more "dark".. I dont care if they listen gabber dome or north core at 900 bpms as long as they dont mess with stuff Im listening when I want to relax..           http://www.facebook.com/xrayzproductions
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pilgrim
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Posted : Jan 30, 2009 15:43
if you go to a nathan party from parvati records and expect psy trance its your own fault men...I'm from Austria too, and if you want psy you have better chances in vienna than in innsbruck for sure
smehoparanoya
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Posted : Jan 30, 2009 15:56
Hey it's everywhere, just try to speak to people and find out good parties with quality music/djs           Monitoring devices, know where you go
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Obelizk
Amoeba

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Posted : Jan 30, 2009 18:25
What are some popular dark psy artists? I've always wanted to listen to something to see what it's like.
danieLs@n
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Posted : Jan 30, 2009 18:31
Now I am just wating for the Dark Psy defenders to take part on this topic and let the party begin...
Getting my popcorns ready, please don't let me down.           0´s and 1´s
x-rayz
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Posted : Jan 30, 2009 18:44
hehe its gonna be a nice show when those darkers come for sure, Im gonna grab a chips or something           http://www.facebook.com/xrayzproductions
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Divine Stones
Divine Stones

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Posted : Jan 30, 2009 18:47
no we wont... because its just opinions...

take care and enjoy whatever you want... we dont care at all!           Divine Stones (Urban Antidote Records)

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Inner Demon


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Posted : Jan 30, 2009 19:16

What is 'dark' psy anyway? Stop calling it that...this has been discussed to death in other threads.

If we're talking about the emotional output of a track, chillout can be dark, progressive can be dark etc...

I do listen to the music that I suspect many of you would pigeonhole as 'dark' but that is usually in the range 145-155 bpm.
170? Who is that? Are you sure you didn't attend a gabba party?
Freeflow
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Posted : Jan 30, 2009 19:20
Can you give some example on these 160-170bpm "darkpsy" tracks?

i think 150-155bpm can be nice. And if there is some psychedelic DnB than it can be nice with 160-170bpm.

you can make very cool fast tracks that dont feel stressed...

Anyway the problem here is that you went to the wrong party according to your musical taste..

cheers
Freeflow
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Jan 30, 2009 19:29
so this is gabber? damn terrible







i dont like this at all
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