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sly
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Posted : Jul 6, 2008 21:02:41
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my question: when creating a new tune, which parts you have in audio/midi and when do you sart bouncing your midi tracks to audio?
hope you understand what i mean...
i love working in audio and i don't like samples very much. so i synthesize almost everything and at a certain point i bounce it to audio.
when keeping all the synths with automations, sends and returns till the end i struggle with a f***in' mess. when switching to audio quite early i have a nice order and workflow but always want to fix some elements i've already bounced. and this is getting worse when i start changing some parts cause they won't fit together anymore.
i know that there are different possibilities and i have to find out which way works best for me. but i'm quite curious if you ppl. have the same problems and how you manage this audio/midi stuff.
just one thing. it's not about cpu and stuff (i know freeze-function). i simply hate having hundrets of (automated) tracks and faders and i also hate fixing stuff with plugs i could have done better before.
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Medea
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Posted : Jul 6, 2008 22:26
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OhmLine
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Posted : Jul 6, 2008 23:05
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Bounce at will, keep the VST tracks you've just bounced freezed and muted (may be in a folder track or just beside the bounced audio channel), then it will not consume resources and you'll be able to unfreeze and fix at any time 
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Chemogen
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Jul 7, 2008 00:47
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As soon as I've written a MIDI part, I bounce it vanilla, then use effects and processes on the bounced audio and once happy with that, bounce it again. |
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acidkills
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Posted : Jul 7, 2008 01:10
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ohshit
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Posted : Jul 7, 2008 09:23
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On 2008-07-07 01:10, acidkills wrote:
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On 2008-07-06 22:26, Medea wrote:
midi 99%
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midi all the way except samples and special cases
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+1
I freeze rather than bounce.
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ansolas
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Posted : Jul 7, 2008 19:52
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Chemogen
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Posted : Jul 7, 2008 21:07
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Cutting up samples ftw. In one of my projects me and my partner created an anthemic lead from a cut up pad that had dfx buffer override automation on it. This pad itself was made by reversing and stretching another lead. |
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Brain Hacked
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Posted : Jul 7, 2008 22:14
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70% audio 30% midi...i just keep the bassline and complex leads midi, in case i need to make some changes...all my drums,fx, short synth lines are audio, i love to work with audio i get more results specially with offline processing and loop mangling |
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hugaw
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Posted : Jul 8, 2008 01:50
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Midi everywhere and when my CPU and Virus (16 parts) start to melt, i bounce.
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sly
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Posted : Jul 8, 2008 13:00
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On 2008-07-07 22:14, Brain Hacked wrote:
70% audio 30% midi...i just keep the bassline and complex leads midi, in case i need to make some changes...all my drums,fx, short synth lines are audio, i love to work with audio i get more results specially with offline processing and loop mangling
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how i do it right now...
but sometimes i altough have to record some stuff again cause i'm not happy with the processed audio. and yeah, offline processing... if i had the money i would probably switch from logic to cubase 
thanks a lot for all responses. |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Jul 9, 2008 21:41
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I have a question that leaves me alone till now.I hope its not too much offtopic.I am rather beginner when it comes to psytrance production.I reached a point of trakcs were bouncing is a solution to get more I think.I made some 'experiments' that are not really satisfying me.I think the quality or lemme say the sound from the bounced material is not identical to the midi source...Is it possilbe when all inserts sends etc were recorded? ..I mean when comparing its sounds not that fat as in 'original'-vst instruments source..I looked up by search with "how to bounce" and came here..if its too offtopic please delete.Basicaly question is,is that normal that the qualy is not exactly identical? |
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realtime
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Posted : Jul 10, 2008 08:31
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inserts are not sends ... two different things.
insert FX should get bounced with the track,
but send FX only when you bounce the target channel
and you still can EQ or raise the volume.
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Jul 10, 2008 14:38
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well I know that inserts and sends are too different ways of effecting.I wanted to know if the material sounds the same by bouncing.No matter what sort of effecting ,or even if you bounce purely without anything else (or when you set your effects off)than the original source.Just if the material sounds identical or not-completely no matter which way.But thanks anywayz |
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UnderTow
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Posted : Jul 10, 2008 16:27
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It should sound exactly the same after bouncing.
UnderTow |
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