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Atriohm and the directions of "dark" psy
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makus
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Posted : Oct 2, 2010 15:29
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On 2010-10-01 12:07, disco hooligans wrote:
the atmospheres are really nice, although music wise, nothing is happening.
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the music is proper because, psychedelically wise, it works 
 
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Fometrius
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Posted : Oct 2, 2010 17:12
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On 2010-10-01 18:13, Serag wrote:
this ppl is living in a dream that died 10 years ago.
gentleman the psytrance u use to hear and dance at 140 145 bpm is over! accept it and move on! or go and listen to talamasca!
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Understand what you mean,but i dont agree on that one can say that stuff at 140-145 bpm is over and that one should move one from listening on it (if one does).One thing does not exclude another thing.I dont see that it has to be one style or another.
Why not eat cookies from different stores?
But i understand that many see this as something new and fresh in terms of sounds and not the same formula repeated again and again.To see something new being born.
However i think all styles change,progressive ,goa, full on etc.Everything changes and evolve.And many producers are a mix of many different styles.
That`s one of the things i myself enjoy with this,to listen to the best from all styles.Allthough there is some directions in psy that i dont listen to and that i dont enjoy listening to.But i would feel unsatisfied if i only was into one particular approach.
The perfect idea for me with a rave is to start up with some progressive,full on ,then when the sun goes down and the stars are seen some night/dark psy and at the early morning with the sun some goa.Also the possibility with chill out music is really nice.Why not try to fill up the spectrum as much as possible and try to be as whole as possible instead of only focus in one direction.
Some parties and festivals are like that,that they only focus on one style,nothing wrong with that.Can be really nice to enjoy styles you really like but generally i think that the "trance experience" get`s heavier,more complete and more "whole" when filling up more of the spectrum then just "one colour",variations are nice.And to enjoy new and fresh stuff and also old formulas reinvented with new concepts and ideas
However my main point was just,one thing does not exclude another,one can eat cookies from many stores.Although i can understand that some feel that some formulas get boring when repeated over and over again and want something new. Myself i enjoy both old and new and the mixing of them.
But in the end,you choose yourself which fruit you want to eat,the same choice everyone else has.What one chooses to listen to is up to them and there is nothing "right" and "wrong" in ones music taste.However it is nice to see new concepts and ways of creating sound ,but that does not mean that one dont can enjoy older approaches, or old ideas mixed with new ideas.
Lets all stay openminded
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Fometrius
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Posted : Oct 2, 2010 17:33
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Nectarios
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Posted : Oct 2, 2010 18:26
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On 2010-10-02 15:29, makus wrote:
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On 2010-10-01 12:07, disco hooligans wrote:
the atmospheres are really nice, although music wise, nothing is happening.
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the music is proper because, psychedelically wise, it works
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Psychedelia is subjective, for example atriohm does not work for me. It gets way too boring, quite quickly, even though there are a lot of channels present in their tunes. For example, Delta tunes that have a fraction of the elements present, are way more driving, serious and psychedelic, for me.
The objective aspect is that there are a lot of FX, drones, FM in their tunes, which is music to some people's ears. I was reffering to the actual absence of lead and bassline riffs, melodies, which for me its better if they are absent than have cheesy melodies like the ones in some of Psykovsky's tunes (I haven't heard many as I don't like his music, just out of couriocity to see wha the fuss was all about).
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On 2010-10-01 18:13, Serag wrote:
is so funny how the nerds have taken control of the trance section, talking like true wise asses, is too fast... oh oh sorry did u broke ur nails while dancing?
really really, i invite all the nerdys to switch minds! really i want them to be happy! this ppl is living in a dream that died 10 years ago.
gentleman the psytrance u use to hear and dance at 140 145 bpm is over! accept it and move on! or go and listen to talamasca!
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Bollocks post of the day.
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Serag
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Posted : Oct 2, 2010 18:45
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On 2010-10-02 09:13, the_real_noname wrote:
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On 2010-10-01 18:13, Serag wrote:
is so funny how the nerds have taken control of the trance section, talking like true wise asses, is too fast... oh oh sorry did u broke ur nails while dancing?
really really, i invite all the nerdys to switch minds! really i want them to be happy! this ppl is living in a dream that died 10 years ago.
gentleman the psytrance u use to hear and dance at 140 145 bpm is over! accept it and move on! or go and listen to talamasca!
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WRONG! Have you heard Abrahadabra? They explore the low 140es in several tracks, bringing influences from oldschool warm goasounds, plenty of psychedelic forest crisp and funkyness. Heard them play live last week, and they have truly reinvented psychedelic trance and gone away from the faster-pussycat-faster-kill-kill-psytrance that has dominated for some time now.
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ok yes u are right true totally of coarse u will find great work at 140 like u say with abrahadabra, and other artists, very psychedelic and deep cool fresh
but if someone say .. 150 bpm still is too fast, well i dont know, i just can think this ppl is against the flow. |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Oct 2, 2010 19:08
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On 2010-10-02 18:45, Serag wrote:
ok yes u are right true totally of coarse u will find great work at 140 like u say with abrahadabra, and other artists, very psychedelic and deep cool fresh
but if someone say .. 150 bpm still is too fast, well i dont know, i just can think this ppl is against the flow.
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Only dead fish go with the flow 
Everybody is free to like what they like, if some people think 150 is too fast, for psy-trance, then its too fast for them. there is no amount of forum arguments that will make them feel otherwise, or "prove" that its wrong to feel 150BPM are not too fast.
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Serag
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Posted : Oct 2, 2010 19:10
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ok so im a dead fish then
and yes everybody can do with their asses a kite if they want. BUT me too |
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willsanquil
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Posted : Oct 2, 2010 23:30
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People who say that you can't dance to this style/tempo music for very long obviously need to do more acid
Oh, and Serag - your post is one of the stupidest things I've seen on Isra in a long time. That's saying something, considering how much other complete crap is on here. If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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Shiranui
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Posted : Oct 3, 2010 04:27
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I've done enough acid to know that being physically worn out while only 4-5 hours into a trip is a very unpleasant experience--wanting to jump around but being unable to do so because every part of your body aches. |
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willsanquil
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Posted : Oct 3, 2010 06:47
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Oh for sure, I wouldn't want dark for 4-5 hours straight, 2-3 tops for me *straight* - unfortunately for me its quite common in my area to have dark stuff start at 9pm and go till daybreak. grumble.
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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minus
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Posted : Oct 3, 2010 08:08
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abrahadabra is old Navajo guy+1-2 friends! love navajo and their earlier works, they keeping the same style, but quality of sound is 2010 with 2010 inputs, rules!
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Braindrop
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Posted : Oct 3, 2010 20:19
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On 2010-10-02 11:59, Scrambled Headz wrote:
Atriohm tunes are awesome !!!
can some one remind me the track with indian samples similar to an older electric universe track...
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Ur talking about Atriohm - Pagan anaesthetic ... and theres also an Encephalopaticys rmx to it...
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Braindrop
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Posted : Oct 3, 2010 20:21
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And i originally posted this on the Ukalen CD review thread .. but i'll post it here too....
I'm still digging this stuff. It has been a very long long time that i've enjoyed a psy album for such a long period and still dropping some of these tracks in my DJ sets. And i still mean every single word of the review that i made till date!
I also notice some previous comments on this thread and on another thread on the 'Trance' section, about how this album is monotonous or non-ground breaking, non danceable , too fast .. and all such...
But, i think as a genre we've pretty much tried everything possible to infuse or corporate. And even if somebody does, it's branded as non-psychedelic or non-trancey....! Well i respect everybody's opinion / taste... but as an ardent listener of this genre and also seeing the evolution of the music for a long time ... i beg to differ
Imo, this album is brilliant. Yes, it has typical sounds, but whats most important in any music form is the feeling that you get from it. There are many tracks similar to this that you could find, but would they all give the same feeling that this album gives. And how can you say that is too fast??? Some countries are just used to listening the same style of music/lineups over and over again, they've gotten into a shell and anything that doesnt fit within, is branded bad??? Probably they forget what psychedelic music is all about in the first place. Yes it is dance music and dance indeed is the key, but this particular dance music, is first for the mind and then for the body.
There is a lot of space, even though the mix is super busy! Very psychedelic sounds, many amazing moods, some hauntingly beautiful and some extremely uplifting, spiritually charging. ...and having had numerous oppurtunities to listen to this at amazing and not so amazing locations outdoor with great results, has made my love for this album even bigger.
Unfortunately the Atriohm project has split, but hoping the solo effort will revive the magic. Having heard Ence live recently., i'm also convinced that these 2 in the future are still going to deliver high quality psy-trance.
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mk47
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Posted : Oct 4, 2010 08:53
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atriohm killer
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rich
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Posted : Oct 4, 2010 09:14
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But mk47 , I think gill plays atriohm  |
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