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Upavas
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Posted : Dec 10, 2008 08:17
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I have heard the same stories about AP in Japan, they suck as far as live act is concerned.
Man, what a refreshing post, real entertainment for sure 
I feel with the organizer, if someone like that would have played a set like that on any of my parties I would have thrown them out, right then and there, I would have looked at it for 10 minutes and would have had them carried out if they'd refused to go...
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frambonas
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Posted : Dec 10, 2008 13:21
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On 2008-12-10 08:17, Upavas wrote:
I have heard the same stories about AP in Japan, they suck as far as live act is concerned.
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Thats the problem with forums these days, lot's of people "hear some stories" but can't talk about there personal experience.
I only had good experience with Avi & Lior
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Dec 10, 2008 18:59
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On 2008-12-10 08:11, Login wrote:
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On 2008-11-24 15:21, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
live means to be there and be one with the audience.
that is why there is a great difference between the big bands and electronic projects of the mainstream on the one side, and the real psychedelic live acts on the other side. the first just push a button and play what they know. they are the fucking middle of everything. no matter the channels and the twist. the point is that they are simply not keeping the energy of the gathering in a circle but it is one way journey. the one is leading the trip, all the rest follows. and this is not the case with real true psychedelic acts. they are there, they dont just act, but they react. they observe and follow. no matter the channels or whatever. at the end of the day noone is making as real lives as they used to be done by musicians before the electronic sound came. face it. not even one real real live act. so it is not so much about the percentage of being live, is much more about the energy circulating in a circle. this is the difficult point.
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I dont wanna start a big long discussion Moki, but just think for a second:
When an artist come to play LIVE, with instruments or using midi controllers to manipulate some part of the tracks, thay HAVE to plan it ahead of the performance.
Thay play live yes, but they have to follow a playlist.
What if the crowd dosnt respond very well to the next song? well, they've to stick to it.
In the other hand the DJ can read the crowd and play what is needed on the dancefloor. And in a long set by a good dj, he can "design" a journey with up and down, get a connection with the crowd and select music to make the party flow.
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I wanted to just quote part of Login's post and say "actually that's not always true", but then I read both posts and thought I actually disagreed with most of both posts. Some mainstream live acts DO have an excellent relationship with the audience; some 'real, true' underground psy acts do not. Most psy live acts stick to a pre-defined setlist, some do not and can vary their set according to dancefloor reaction. Some DJs plan every track of their set beforehand, some just take a shitload of CDs with them and go with the flow.
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Elad
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Posted : Dec 11, 2008 13:02
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"at the end of the day noone is making as real lives as they used to be done by musicians before the electronic sound came."
obviously people are so un respectfull to electronic music when they have no idea how it works
please tell me ms. moki what is more live in playing guitar and drums then playing a synth or electronic drums ??????
this are instruments just as well
or maybe metallica on stage "improvise" to fit the audience ??? no!!!! they play ready songs that have been practiced just like electronic live.
if a tweak of cutoff on stage in not enough then just dont expect ever for electronic live show , and that would be kinda sad no hehe cause its there and its real and its good www.sattelbattle.com
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celsung
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Posted : Dec 14, 2008 16:46
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On 2008-12-10 13:21, frambonas wrote:
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On 2008-12-10 08:17, Upavas wrote:
I have heard the same stories about AP in Japan, they suck as far as live act is concerned.
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Thats the problem with forums these days, lot's of people "hear some stories" but can't talk about there personal experience.
I only had good experience with Avi & Lior
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I saw AP in Japan a few years ago and they were amazing. I think it had a lot to do with the venue, though. I saw Derrick May spin at that same venue, and it was the best DJ set I had ever heard, and I'm not even in to Detroit Techno. Then I saw him again at another venue and he was terrible. Same DJ, but the venue just didn't bring it out of him. So my point is, if you can catch AP at a small venue that has just the right amount of people, they really are a good "live" act. |
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Upavas
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Posted : Dec 15, 2008 12:02
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On 2008-12-10 13:21, frambonas wrote:
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On 2008-12-10 08:17, Upavas wrote:
I have heard the same stories about AP in Japan, they suck as far as live act is concerned.
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Thats the problem with forums these days, lot's of people "hear some stories" but can't talk about there personal experience.
I only had good experience with Avi & Lior
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Yeah well, it wasn't a forum , it was a friend of mine in Japan who promotes parties... the info is absolutely valid bro!
And the location was amazing.
Nuff said!
Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
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http://upavas.com
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WinieOne
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Posted : Dec 16, 2008 11:05
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Astral Projection is the BEST!!!
Alwais!!! |
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JohnTaramas
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Posted : Jul 25, 2009 12:28
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Next time, book me !! hahaha
I don't smoke, i don't use drugs and i don't drink ! 
you sound like the advedrisement of a rehub center. astral may became ridiculus but you cannot reach what they have done all those year ,not even in your craziest dream,no hard feelings, sorry. |
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Xolvexs
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Posted : Jul 25, 2009 13:01
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hey what happened to the i dont care i dont give a fuck attitude...where are the future morrisons and janis joplins...getting drunk and pissing on the fans was back in the good old psychedelic days considered LEGENDARY...u guys are too weak....u sound like a 12 year old girl having her period at a Miley Cyrus (yes i am obsessed with her) concert
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HOUSTRODAMUS
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Posted : Jul 30, 2009 22:32
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your story made me quite sad 
it is a shame that they perform in such a state.
the ipod makes me think they are getting lazy and would rather socialize than focus on mixing. |
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elis_dee
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Posted : Aug 23, 2009 14:09
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On 2007-04-09 22:08, Sound Surgeon wrote:
I wonder if Astral guys enter this forum, theres gonna be some thread crappin if they are!
good potential for funny stuff 
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Well no! There MUCH too tardcore I mean hardcore to check out this website!!! Hahahahahahaahhahahaha
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Sanathana
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Posted : Mar 30, 2010 02:00
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Colin has covered most of what can / cannot be played LIVE and why...
In short, PSYTRANCE cannot be played 100% LIVE. If you claim to do so then make sure the audience hears every Kick, Bass, Hihats and snares you layout in the track as a progression (as it is electronic music)... if not on a sampler (kickdrum and the like)...
If Psytrance gets to a stage of it being a proper 100% LIVE performance, the duration of patterns on your sampler is BOUND to be longer..... (Some food for thought)
Solution, start calling 'LIVE Act' as 'Part-Live Acts'
Here is a thread with a similar story and im sure you guys already know about it:
http://forum.isratrance.com/artists-liars-who-deceived-everyone-and-everything/
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goa-ganges
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Posted : Mar 30, 2010 23:34
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Funny...some DJs/artists who criticized AP playing from Ipod's...now themselves are playing from PD, or in most cases playing from MP3 playlists inside their AirMac...
In short: it was all a matter of ENVY. |
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Sanathana
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Posted : Apr 1, 2010 00:57
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