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Astral Projection is a fake

-aeon-
Aeon
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Posted : May 6, 2007 10:54
mubali, interesting points

just wanted to quickly say - have you thought about a MIDI viola? or an electric viola with lots of processing?

i don't have a MIDI violin yet, but even with the electric it's possible to get some incredibly cool sounds. running it through a pitch-shifting pedal with distortion, then into Ableton with a 1/16th audio gate, a tempo-synced autofilter, and a nice delay... well, you can make some awesome sounds. the amount of audio-mangling stuff which is available to us means you can do almost anything, from staccato bursts of heavy noise to eery, swirling, disorientated pads... and a MIDI violin/viola, well fuck me, i'd love to hook one up to a virus ti and spend a few weeks lost in the possibilities
DJAmnesia


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Posted : May 6, 2007 23:59
Hope they didnt pay astral for doing that!

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mubali
Mubali

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Posted : May 7, 2007 00:06
I've thought about it, but at the same time realized that it's a little out of my price range, and as much as I travel, I really would not want anything to happen to it if I spend a bunch of money on that. That, and having that will upset my carryon baggage allotment... They're pretty anal about that stuff nowadays.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 7, 2007 15:48
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On 2007-05-07 00:06, mubali wrote:
...and as much as I travel, I really would not want anything to happen to it if I spend a bunch of money on that. That, and having that will upset my carryon baggage allotment... They're pretty anal about that stuff nowadays.



Musical instruments are fine as carry-on on planes unless they're things like cellos which need their own seat. I've been carrying my Nord Modular on plane regularly for a few years now including trans-Atlantic and have never had a problem; they question the extra bag every time but as soon as you say the magic words 'musical instrument' you get waved through. A good case and appropriate insurance are essential though; luckily neither are unaffordable.
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Kalki2


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Posted : May 7, 2007 20:44
I understand what you all talking about, but people, you must understand that the AP are under mind control?!

Is that clear to you?

This is not a production problem, just mind control problem...

This is a alien control from far past til today to slow you soul evolution!!!

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Pavel
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Posted : May 7, 2007 21:48
Quote:

On 2007-05-07 20:44, Kalki2 wrote:
I understand what you all talking about, but people, you must understand that the AP are under mind control?!

Is that clear to you?

This is not a production problem, just mind control problem...

This is a alien control from far past til today to slow you soul evolution!!!

Heeeheeee...




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Anak
Anakoluth

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Posted : May 8, 2007 00:23
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On 2007-05-05 14:28, Colin OOOD wrote:
I know I said I'd :shutthefuckupsmiley: but obviously I can't help say one final (sigh) thing... I completely agree with almost everything you said, particularly about playing out of time. I'd never recommend playing the kick or bass totally live - there are some things you just shouldn't fuck with IMO!



sorry mate, couldn't refrain but playing kickdrum live should be no problem for a drummer who actively plays the instrument! besides, why playing live instruments at all if not for the nice touch of human imperfection?          Anakoluth A Pebble in Your Eardrum's Shoe since 2001!
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Elad
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Posted : May 8, 2007 02:26
huh , ask drummers how much they looovveeee 4x4 kick           www.sattelbattle.com
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Anak
Anakoluth

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Posted : May 8, 2007 14:19
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On 2007-05-08 02:26, tsabeat wrote:
huh , ask drummers how much they looovveeee 4x4 kick




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Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 8, 2007 16:28
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On 2007-05-08 00:23, Anak wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-05-05 14:28, Colin OOOD wrote:
I know I said I'd :shutthefuckupsmiley: but obviously I can't help say one final (sigh) thing... I completely agree with almost everything you said, particularly about playing out of time. I'd never recommend playing the kick or bass totally live - there are some things you just shouldn't fuck with IMO!



sorry mate, couldn't refrain but playing kickdrum live should be no problem for a drummer who actively plays the instrument! besides, why playing live instruments at all if not for the nice touch of human imperfection?


For us (and, I'm sure, many people) the kick and bass are the foundation of a track. To my ears, psytrance only works because of the utter rigidity and exact repetition of the kick and bass - not to mention the very specific nature of the sounds involved. The sounds you could fix by using a MIDI trigger on the kit; the timing issue is more problematic. There's plenty of human imperfections when a drummer plays the rest of the drum kit without messing with the one vital element that makes the set work in the first place!           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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DJ Buju
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Posted : May 8, 2007 17:47
Astral Projection Are Bigger then GODS and you all know nothing...

Pfff...

Pavel
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Posted : May 8, 2007 19:59
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On 2007-05-08 17:47, DJ Buju wrote:
Astral Projection Are Bigger then GODS and you all know nothing...

Pfff...





So true...
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Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : May 12, 2007 01:32
Quote:

On 2007-05-07 15:48, Colin OOOD wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-05-07 00:06, mubali wrote:
...and as much as I travel, I really would not want anything to happen to it if I spend a bunch of money on that. That, and having that will upset my carryon baggage allotment... They're pretty anal about that stuff nowadays.



Musical instruments are fine as carry-on on planes unless they're things like cellos which need their own seat. I've been carrying my Nord Modular on plane regularly for a few years now including trans-Atlantic and have never had a problem; they question the extra bag every time but as soon as you say the magic words 'musical instrument' you get waved through. A good case and appropriate insurance are essential though; luckily neither are unaffordable.




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wiseNevil
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Posted : May 12, 2007 16:07
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On 2007-04-15 10:46, The_Guardians_Of_Truth wrote:
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On 2007-04-15 04:41, Glitch_CapeTown wrote:
@Alias
Actually a live act, is "live", not just play a wave file off a nice laptop....

u shud use ableton to sequence many diferent Wave files which you chop up and put FX on "Live"....
You dont even need Hardware synths and what not...
Infact, most "live" acts are more Wave file based(chopping, Sequencing and FXs) rather than Midi(live tweaking of synth knobs etc.) the synths are just there to "look cool" as is the case with Astral Projection......

and, I did read the thread.....

and the Live set I was talking about, is the one that the thread is based on, I dont really know why u ask "what live act?"

Judging by the fact that you believe that Astral Projection do real live acts, I would take your word about anything, sorry........




Atma Wrote:
well maybe the word "live act" is not good and it must be changed. Many peoples make confusion and belive that "live acting" in psytrance scene should be the same as on Rock or Pop Music.

...totally wrong ! First of all: psy music is more complex, i mean it use much more instruments and sound effects, and 90% is made with synths not acustic or other unplugged instruments.

I think the "live act" in psytrance scene means, the artist who play his own music or diffrent version of his traks, and yes, maybe sometimes he add some effects, pads, riffs, etc. using hardwre stuff or just laptop.

Just imagine a 100% live act of Astral Projection..first of all, the organizers wouldn't be able to provide them with all the equipment they need. And second: the price won't be anymore 2-3000 euro, but it will be 20-30.000 euro maybe even more...

So...let's be seriouse !!! As an artist, i can tell you, that the organizers complain every day, that they don't have money to pay and they aways loose money....

So..who will pay such huge price for a live act ?

The conclusion is: maybe is better to find another definition for "live acting"..
Also the public, and the organizers should grow up and understand that this is not "Rock Music" with 3 guitars a keyboard and a drummer and that's all !
This is psytrance, and there is no real "live act", or a 100% live is impossible !

Of course, the artist should also try to be as profy as possible, and put some much more effort on the stage..They should also spend some money on seriouse equipment for using on the stage like HD Recorders or other proffesional Multitrack Recodrders or Workstations.
With only 1500 euro setup for stage use, the artist can do a really profy job. It's not so hard or expensive!




atma is totally right
well said.
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Posted : May 13, 2007 12:52
yep, i totaly agree also....
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