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Astral Projection and The 'Superstar' - Supersad :(
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 17:02
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and handA it doesnt have to do with israel or not it has to do with you saying things that doesnt make sense |
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HandA
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 17:03
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On 2005-09-21 16:57, psy^soldier wrote:
well handA i dont know if i hear a song i would like to know what the artist is singing about but its just me and it is a song its not an elctronic music track
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Again i ask why it's so important for you if I like it or not? You should not care if I like it or think it's crap. It's my opinion and I am fine with that you like it.
I think your getting a bit offtopic now. Who cares if the original song was Rock and if it's not electronic music. That does not change a thing. |
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HandA
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 17:07
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On 2005-09-21 17:02, psy^soldier wrote:
and handA it doesnt have to do with israel or not it has to do with you saying things that doesnt make sense
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LOL now your getting funny.. So when you do not agree with someone then they do not make sense? I think you have a very hard time accepting other people's opinion and taste.. I dont know how many times I now have written that I respect your taste. Can you respect mine too or is that too much to ask for? |
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Nathan
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 18:10
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On 2005-09-21 11:50, HandA wrote:
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On 2005-09-21 11:41, Yuli wrote:
Well actually I find it important to hear the original and only then to react on the remix, it's kinda the idea here in my humble opinion. I ( as a stupid IM fan hehe ) for once would like to know what is so crappy in Birthday. In my opinion ( really ) it is a very well produced rework of a rock song, which left the authentity of the original and still managed to insert the trancy side into the song. Knowing this is really hard to do from experience, I am taking the hat off before the quality of this one.
So pretty please HandA could u be so nice and becides CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! elaborate with me on what is so CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! in this song?
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First of all I do not like Berrys vocals. Yes he can sing but to me it's 100% cheesy. Second I do not like the music. I have never liked IM and never tried to hide it. Yes the production is good but it's a matter of taste Yuli.
I dont get why it's so important for you to justify a remix? It's my taste and I will express it if I want to. Your perfectly welcome to love the song. as long as you accept that I dont love it.
And why do I need to know the opriginal version to have an opinion about a remix? That does not at all make any sense!
And so you get my point right. The reason why I wrote what I wrote was a reaction to Chaos Theory who critisised Astral for what they are doing but at the same time praised IM & Berry. In my opinion there's absolutely no difference here. IM did their thing and Astral do their thing. As I said I do not know the girl and I do not know the song Astral did with her. So I have no oprinion about the song until I hear it - If I ever will! But i do know IM & Berry and I stil think it's crap.. IMO
But you did not see me tell them not to do their things as everyone else seem to do in this topic. I am all for freedom of choice and if IM or Astral want to do these things I have no problem with it. I might not like the music but I don't loose sleep over it 
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Hypocrisy!?!
As I said I have no problem when psy artists collaborate with non psy artist.
Barry sakharof is one of the most appreciated rock artist in Israel. His album 'negiot' is one of the best and I even don't like non psy music but Barry's album is impossible to be unloved.
Pop culture: imo roni represent greediness. shy is just a good body with generated voice.
Barry is one of a kind artist. I have nothing bad to say about him. Songs like 'nitzotzot' and 'en ketz la yaldut' was remixed by infected and they are even batter the birthday ep. and without any connection and with! that's is the most sailing ep In the history of Israel.
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Yuli
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 18:25
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On 2005-09-21 12:48, HandA wrote:
It still amaze me how some of you people get so personal offended if someone outside Israel critisise israeli music. Do you see a whole group of people from Denmark, UK,Greece (bad example...lol), Germany etc etc. get all upset if you critisise a local artist from there? I doubt it. Relax a little. Nobody are critisising Israel or any of you personal. We are debating music for christ sake.
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HandA you are totally impossible.
I believe in 100% that to 'live' a song u have to understand it. If I wouldnt understand English I might find Robert Zimmerman songs really horrible, not only too long, his voice is a complete disaster. But since the major point in Bob Dylan's music is the lyrics, it makes those songs, like mr. Tambourine Man to be milestones in rock music.
Now u say that u heard Berry sing, and his voice is cheesy... What is this man... but u dont have a clue what is he saying... How one can decide what is cheesy and what is not without understanding what is said?
Moreover there is a huge difference between Berry's art and Roni Superstar ( I am not a fan of any of them altho I like few of Berry's song and respect him as an artist ) and you already have decided that for u they are the same. This is so lame man, and I wonder how u cannot see that one must understand the language to make the difference. I thought u r intelligent enough to get that point.
To make it even more to the point I can compare your crude comparison between those two ( Berry and Roni Superstar ) to You ( Elysium Project ) and Eyal Barkan. Since it involves 4/4 beat and steady rhythms it is completely the same. I bet u would say it's not the same. So it is not the same in other example as well.
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Shaqattack
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 18:27
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hmm...
well i heard astrals coming to goa in feb...
so i guess i can check out the lady in goa for sure
apart from that...c'mon...it is kinda sad that they have to collaborate with a pop st@r but then..who am i to decide what they should or should'nt do 
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HandA
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 18:55
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I give up.. I am "impossible" and you Yuli and the rest that get oh so personal offended about my opinion and personal taste. Yes your all right I am "impossible" and should not come here and speak my opinion and less should i have my own taste. I will from now on listen to you and 100% adapt my taste to your taste. Am I now welcome and accepted among you?
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Oran
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 19:01
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i think you are all missing a very importent point.
this song/track whatever, was ordered from "orange" an israeli mobile phones company, it is seppose to be send as greeting to the hebrew new year.by sms mms or gms whatever.or to d/l as a ringtone.
so i realy doubt you gonna hear it in parties or on the next AP release.
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 19:58
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On 2005-09-21 19:01, Oran(m.p) wrote:
i think you are all missing a very importent point.
this song/track whatever, was ordered from "orange" an israeli mobile phones company, it is seppose to be send as greeting to the hebrew new year.by sms mms or gms whatever.or to d/l as a ringtone.
so i realy doubt you gonna hear it in parties or on the next AP release.
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Thank you, this whole discussion isn't worth Shit, if that's the case.
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Nathan
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 20:01
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On 2005-09-21 19:01, Oran(m.p) wrote:
i think you are all missing a very importent point.
this song/track whatever, was ordered from "orange" an israeli mobile phones company, it is seppose to be send as greeting to the hebrew new year.by sms mms or gms whatever.or to d/l as a ringtone.
so i realy doubt you gonna hear it in parties or on the next AP release.
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SO What?
its even worse
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Dainty Doll
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 20:32
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Pavel
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 20:44
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So when are we going to catch Hypersonic drinking Coca Cola in the commercials break? Or will it be Skazi?
For fuck's sake, it's not that far fetched. I can see it coming really soon. Or Dali selling shampoo and stuff.
Ok, the last one sounds good actually.
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Pavel
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 20:45
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On 2005-09-21 20:32, June Rashava wrote:
I will ask again then.
WHY IS SHE WEARING AN ARMY OUTFIT?
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She is a soldier 
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 20:51
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handA I rescpect your tast and i dont take it personly i just didnt undertand the thing you worte i dont need to understand the words the singer said to see if i think its crap or not thats all i myself need to undestand a song and whats it is about to like it, alot of songs i didnt like at first but when i listen to the words and see what they about i just got connected to it but thats just me |
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 21:02
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I understand what HandA is saying if you consider the track (Birthday) as being a psy-tune, i mean, i don't have to understand what the Hindi singer in Smoked glass and Chrome by OTT is singing about in-order to say that it's one of my all-time fav. tunes...
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