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Astral Plan & Telepathy in parties
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moki
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Posted : Jan 5, 2009 17:41
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of course it exists:)
i don't even argue...
the morphogenetic field of collective consciousness is something that i realized to be existent quite a long time ago . we have a collective consciousness, collective dreams and collective remembrance. that is why we can connect to times and ages long before we came to this earth, and that is why in non ordinary states we connect to symbolic archetypic myths (see carl gustav jung) that we actually had in our mind long before we took our first breath on this planet. the morphogenetic field is there, no question and doubt about it. i just dont really believe that everyone has a connection to it. sure we all have a door into this perception, but not everyone goes through the door. most people dont. why do i need to be telepathically connected to them??? some of them have quite heavy and unpleasant thoughts, negative energies. then i just go through the door and see what will happen. i leave the rest of them staring before the door .
think about what would happen if we all start to experience telepathy at once. this is what is supposed to happen after 21.12.2012. what will happen then? many will not even survive it in their psyche. it is a hard thing. do you really wanna know what all the others think? to feel their anger and hate, their jelousy or whatever? it can be totally unpleasant actually, again i am not sure if it was only in my head or not, but on acid sometimes i had this type of telepathy. well no thanks. i am not interested to know what they think in their small little brains, not even slightly. it doesnt mean i dont believe in telepathy and collective mind. of course there is collective mind. but the problem is that people are so incredibly different. we have collective mind, but we are at a different place in our psychic and spiritual development. this makes the telepathic experience almost impossible.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
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psycho-italiano
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Posted : Jan 6, 2009 01:45
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Well, first of all, the I think the 21.12.2012 date doesn't mean anything.
Nothing will be there.I didn't waste my time to read about it even.
Its another bullshit story to let people feel adventurer.
Now to our telepathy business:
I agree that we may get bad vibes while sharing thoughts - telepathy.
but as we get those bad thoughts quickly we can also filter them but this time more quickly than getting them.
Each one of us MUST have a bad trip at least one time in order to avoid it next time!
This way you develop your mind defense system , or in other words you learn to control your thoughts.
I believe (from my experience) our minds work as radio station:
We do 2 things:
1. We transmit information.
2. We receive information.
This information is the wavs we catch in telepathy.
But as in radio and music! We can use / add filters to our brain before make any process to the information.
This filter is our feelings actually.
When I have a telepathy session opened with people, I can feel the wav if its bad or good before it would be visually affect me.
You can feel the temperature of it.
And you can even see a shadow of the movie before it becomes close to you (at least this is how my mind work).
having bad trip simply teach us the deference between good trip and bad trip!
And if you never had a bad one then you will never have the maximum energy of this universe.
Coz bad trip is caused by dealing with the unknown thoughts and information , so once you discover those bad doors / thoughts, next time you shouldn’t pass through them and you can go forward.
Coz you know how they feel and you can ignore them in order to accept the good only. Very simple mechanism.
Its like imagining a fruit in your mind ,if its good then you simply pick this fruit from somewhere to eat it. The same happens with this info you can pre-process it (filter) , you can somehow test it, then you can "eat" the wave if its good, and gain cosmic energy.
But for sure if you eat the bad wav then you eat your night mare movie for that time.
But, again, only after having bad vibes (bad trip) and feeling them at least once, then you will start to develop defense system (control your mind ¡V filter bad thoughts from others) , and you can enjoy the telepathy more and more, then redo it many times.
so why telepathy???
Its non stop fun fun fun...you grab a lot of cosmic energy!
And the super great thing in telepathy is this thing:
If we can think about the same thing as I said before then we can think about anything we want and it will happen!
So think about the most powerful thing that this universe has! The most powerful energy!
And that is: God!
If you think alone that you are God then probably you will not have the maximum energy in your body and mind.
But! With telepathy once everyone around you knows what you are thinking about and they think with you about the same thing:
everyone thinks that he is God and that we are all one , then BOOOOOOOM something killer happens!
You get the secret of the universe, that we are all together actually God and have this energy hidden inside of us.
Again, if you don't think about the bad thoughts, then your good thoughts will pass to other people around you and you will affect them!
Good Always Win once its established and Beats the Bad!
Coz the feelings there are so powerful and our desire to have the best for our self and others is in the first priority.
And if its not, then we will have a bad trip and will learn from it that thinking good is the only thing that save us.
That's how I see it my friend...
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moki
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Posted : Jan 6, 2009 14:12
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yeah. nice theoretical explanation  )).
i will be a bit more direct, although i am not sure if i am allowed to be so direct in this forum, but i know that the mods are working hard to purify the place so i have no worries - they will clean after me:)))).
telepathy is the easiest thing on the planet. you just need an entheogen and here it is. there is nothing more simple than telepathy if you are on acid. you just need to focus your attention on someone and you feel his thoughts. no need for explanations, it is so simple actually.
and this is also the reason why you experience it seldom at parties nowadays : most of the people are not on acid nowadays . well i cant speak for all places and continents of course....i am sure that there are places and beaches and mountains and sacred festivals where it is relatively pure and quite spiritual, but at least i can speak for the western weekend parties. their main purpose is to have fun and to relax after a hard week of working. ppl dont emphasise on entheogens but emphasise on fun drugs. and according to all psychedelic theories like for instance the eight fold model of timothy leary, if you know what is this at all, this type of drugs are not quite suitable for any type of telepathy. they dont open the door. they might make you energetic, empathic, AWAKE, but they dont open the door to the morphogenetic field. btw about the morphogenetic field check rupert sheldrake - he has some quite astonishing proof about the collective mind of the humans as wells as the animals.....
so what i mean is, there is not much telepathy on parties nowadays because the years are gone when we used to really trip...now we just have fun at the parties. i mean the majority. this is what i think.
about 21.12.2012. oh yes, something will happen. there is no question. at least because we will be alighned with the DOOR i was talking about in the previous post. so it will be quite more easy to go through this door. anyway, again i have too litle time to think what i write but i hope you understand me.
and about the radio - well still you never know if your radio receives the right information. never. actually i am one of those people who are fundamentally sceptical about everything - i am not even sure if i exist or if i am just dreaming, as well as i am not sure about any other thing in the material universe around me. it could all be just a bad signal in my radio station. and it is possible that i dont have a clue about what is real and what not - it might be all just an illusion.
but anyway telepathy on acid is one of the most beautiful things in the universe.
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allillusory
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 03:26
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On 2009-01-06 14:12, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
yeah. nice theoretical explanation )).
i will be a bit more direct, although i am not sure if i am allowed to be so direct in this forum, but i know that the mods are working hard to purify the place so i have no worries - they will clean after me:)))).
telepathy is the easiest thing on the planet. you just need an entheogen and here it is. there is nothing more simple than telepathy if you are on acid. you just need to focus your attention on someone and you feel his thoughts. no need for explanations, it is so simple actually.
and this is also the reason why you experience it seldom at parties nowadays : most of the people are not on acid nowadays . well i cant speak for all places and continents of course....i am sure that there are places and beaches and mountains and sacred festivals where it is relatively pure and quite spiritual, but at least i can speak for the western weekend parties. their main purpose is to have fun and to relax after a hard week of working. ppl dont emphasise on entheogens but emphasise on fun drugs. and according to all psychedelic theories like for instance the eight fold model of timothy leary, if you know what is this at all, this type of drugs are not quite suitable for any type of telepathy. they dont open the door. they might make you energetic, empathic, AWAKE, but they dont open the door to the morphogenetic field. btw about the morphogenetic field check rupert sheldrake - he has some quite astonishing proof about the collective mind of the humans as wells as the animals.....
so what i mean is, there is not much telepathy on parties nowadays because the years are gone when we used to really trip...now we just have fun at the parties. i mean the majority. this is what i think.
about 21.12.2012. oh yes, something will happen. there is no question. at least because we will be alighned with the DOOR i was talking about in the previous post. so it will be quite more easy to go through this door. anyway, again i have too litle time to think what i write but i hope you understand me.
and about the radio - well still you never know if your radio receives the right information. never. actually i am one of those people who are fundamentally sceptical about everything - i am not even sure if i exist or if i am just dreaming, as well as i am not sure about any other thing in the material universe around me. it could all be just a bad signal in my radio station. and it is possible that i dont have a clue about what is real and what not - it might be all just an illusion.
but anyway telepathy on acid is one of the most beautiful things in the universe.
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Telepathy is the easiest thing, that is true.
In fact I know lots of people who do it everyday, without being on entheogens.
I know a guy who is ubertelepathic to the point that if he smokes a little herb, you will hear his thoughts audibly in your head.
lucy is not needed, but it does flip the switch on for many.
But as far as the comment about people not taking lucy as much as back in the days, I have to disagree. Here in the bay area, at least half the people are usually frying (the other half rolling) And telepathy is always happening... People even play mindgames with each other, which is fun... Especially when portals open and demons and angels hang out. at least that's what I perceive. So maybe that is just your perception that its not like it used to be... that, or your geographical area.
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moki
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 09:31
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soooo, now we come to the point:))))))). so, dear global trance community, let us know which places are best for telepathy sessions, life is too short to spend time at the wrong place..... )))
what is the bay area? sounds like the united states? well, the states are anyway the mother of the psychedelic revolution, even if some other countries like to underestimate this fact....so i can imagine that it is still weird there, even if most ppl say it is gone nowadays....
just wanted to be precise about my geographical area, of course here you can find quite psychedelic gatherings and actually i think here it is one of the most psychedelic places on earth ( berlin and nord germany). you still find telepathy and everything else, it is just too rare, cause you have 10 parties per weekend and many many main stream elements at the parties. but to be precise there are still psychedelic areas and happenings, even without psychedelics ( the ppl are bit older and they have taken enough stuff to know how to induce this state without neurotransmitters, with the time you learn it too)
psy greets out there!
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psycho-italiano
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 20:01
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Well,
guys if you talk about the place that has most telepathy then its Israel.
Despite that here you can find most commercial music.
But there are also a lot of underground parties. And from my experience in Israel, the people here like to dig like no tomorrow….its like work funny but true!
As Cosma said in his best psychedelic track: “Yok Yok”: you came here to WORK.
Yeah Israeli guys in parties work! They dig dig dig like crazies and play mind games, travel, etc..…I love it.
But today in Israel not all parties like that, but still better than other places in the world.
Second place is: Japan.
Japanies party people also like to dig so hard like Israeli guys, and there is a lot of connection between japanies and Israeli people, they are on the same frequency.
Other countries has lake of this power in parties.
but you may find few Exceptional countries that have also some killer parties, but they are very rare.
Watch nature parties in youtube of Israel and you can notice that. How they dance, spiritual dance.
its called: Karahana
ohh i miss it.....2 years without it almost and now counting the 3rd one...
today Iam retired from parties in Israel coz they are loaded today a lot of kids that destroy the vibe and don’t know what spiritual dance is.
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allillusory
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Posted : Jan 9, 2009 02:57
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On 2009-01-08 09:31, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
what is the bay area? sounds like the united states? well, the states are anyway the mother of the psychedelic revolution, even if some other countries like to underestimate this fact....so i can imagine that it is still weird there, even if most ppl say it is gone nowadays....
just wanted to be precise about my geographical area, of course here you can find quite psychedelic gatherings and actually i think here it is one of the most psychedelic places on earth ( berlin and nord germany). you still find telepathy and everything else, it is just too rare, cause you have 10 parties per weekend and many many main stream elements at the parties. but to be precise there are still psychedelic areas and happenings, even without psychedelics ( the ppl are bit older and they have taken enough stuff to know how to induce this state without neurotransmitters, with the time you learn it too)
psy greets out there!
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wow, 10 parties every weekend?
thats probably why.
Here in northern california (bay area)
we have only 1 psytrance gig happening every week. sometimes we will go a month without one. And the regular parties are inside clubs. the outdoor events don't happen very often.
I read somewhere a long time ago that the earth has special geomagnetic lines where the vibes are just weird compared to the rest. According to what I read One of these places is Israel of course, and another is california. I don't really care to look it up but it is interesting.
Kind of like how mexico has lots of ufos all the time.
And I have to say that lately not a day goes by when I don't experience at least one instance of conscious telepathy with another human (while completely sober).
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moki
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Posted : Jan 9, 2009 13:09
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oh yes,
i think that the science of geomantie and feng shui is quite fundamental for the trance culture.it is very important what is the position of the floors, where is the festival at all, is it alligned to geomantic lines? is it alligned to astronomic happenings in the stars?
and still it has not been researched enough.
it is about the energy field of the earth, its main energetic points, its energy paths and meridians. this is another ancient knowledge that many cultures had (for instance the northern celtic culture or the chinese or generally asia). and i think it is quite fundamental to know about it, if you wanna put a festival. some places are more suitable for non ordinary states of consciousness, they are more loaded.
of course this is a serious topic and may be it belongs much more to the spirituality off topic section. i am just mentioning it briefly. may be i should give a try to discuss it fully in another thread, and give a try to behave more intelligent in this dark blue coloured place:).
but i am sure california is quite loaded energetically. this place is the mother of the psychedelic revolution. the haight ashbury disctrict! it must be something special, i cant wait to see it one day, even if it is not the same. israel for sure too!!!!!! israel is not labeled the sacred land just like that! of course it is absolutely special!!! and btw northern germany too, here it is full of celtic geomantic energy lines! but the festivals are not done on the lines. ppity.
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psycho-italiano
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Posted : Jan 9, 2009 13:58
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moki
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Posted : Jan 9, 2009 16:20
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a cool. btw did someone already tell you that you are the author of the two most interesting topics in this section that i have seen? if not, then i tell you that.
may be you could also ask the mods to place the spirituality forum at a better position, not like that like the problem child of the trance community in the bottom corner.
but you have to probably tell them that we are talking about nice business opportunities how to make a festival more attractive, then they would probably see the importance of the subject:) kidding. please excuse me for making fun of the virtues of the trance scene:). may be we need a map with the most loaded places on earth??? what do you think??? i think it would be useful. to see a geomantic map! not like the trancers guide but a slightly different one?
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psycho-italiano
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Posted : Jan 10, 2009 12:05
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hehe thanks buddy ...
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On 2009-01-09 16:20, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
not like that like the problem child of the trance community in the bottom corner.
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Returned to me nostalgia in school when the teacher was putting me in corner coz I made a lot of noiseses….
hehe so probably this forum is making noises and troubles too…
Now really, I think also there is a very deep connection between Trance and spirituality , a perspective of old experienced Trance lover.
I don’t know if the team well agree to move the forum, but let's give it a try and send a PM to Shahar the mod of this forum, ask if he can move it to the top General section next to Trance forum.
Then if he doesn’t agree we talk to our other hundreds of friends here and will spam his mailbox with the other isratrance team lol……(kidding only).
But yeah , go ahead and ask him, I will do it to.
Peace friend!
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Nomad Moon
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a cool. btw did someone already tell you that you are the author of the two most interesting topics in this section that i have seen? if not, then i tell you that.
may be you could also ask the mods to place the spirituality forum at a better position, not like that like the problem child of the trance community in the bottom corner.
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Posted : Jan 11, 2009 04:57
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electronic waves inside the brain! yeah
so you can interpret them?
i think we are very busy with our own minds and its not some clean signal that we receive, its mixed with our own thoughts and ideas and feelings... at least in everyday life, stress and anger cause the system is infected...
so for this to work best and safest its done with positive mind setting.... and it always works best that way!
i also believe under the roof of good music we can connect with eachother with a clean signal, specially if we dance to trance...
yeah this sounds like it can be true... but my mind is also under the influence of lots of things, the strongest thing is that we believe.. if we believe we can make it come through, scary on one side, very positive on the other side...
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On 2009-01-05 17:41, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
think about what would happen if we all start to experience telepathy at once. this is what is supposed to happen after 21.12.2012. what will happen then? many will not even survive it in their psyche. it is a hard thing. do you really wanna know what all the others think? to feel their anger and hate, their jelousy or whatever? it can be totally unpleasant actually, again i am not sure if it was only in my head or not, but on acid sometimes i had this type of telepathy. well no thanks. i am not interested to know what they think in their small little brains, not even slightly. it doesnt mean i dont believe in telepathy and collective mind. of course there is collective mind. but the problem is that people are so incredibly different. we have collective mind, but we are at a different place in our psychic and spiritual development. this makes the telepathic experience almost impossible.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
peace!
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no offence but i suggest good shades while tripping
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On 2009-01-09 16:20, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
a cool. btw did someone already tell you that you are the author of the two most interesting topics in this section that i have seen? if not, then i tell you that.
may be you could also ask the mods to place the spirituality forum at a better position, not like that like the problem child of the trance community in the bottom corner.
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second that
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