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makus
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Posted : May 5, 2010 15:48:58
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What do you think about it? Should artists create different projects to make psychedelic trance, chill out, minimal techno and, say, progressive trance? Or is it okay to make everything under the same name?
Does it actually confuse anyone when he/she discovers that his/her fav artist isn't only 160 bpm darktrance maker but also a sentimental 60 bpm downtempo creator? 
Is it a matter of better informing people about the variety of music which an artist or a band creates or do the band really need to make up several names/websites/myspaceses/send more spam and basically pollute the information field of the planet with new projet titles?
 
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Ascension
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Posted : May 5, 2010 15:59
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I've always been against using a different artist name for different projects. I can understand it if you're making something like techno/house with one name and psytrance/chillout with another, but I think it's kinda pointless to use a diff name when making music that falls under the psychedelic genre (psytrance, psyprog, psychill). I know some artist do it because they're producing a different "style" of whatever genre, but still, it's the same person doing it...
I know it confuses a lot of people when artist have different names for different projects. Not every is very involved in the scene to follow artists like that.
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Nectarios
Martian Arts
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Posted : May 5, 2010 17:07
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I am indifferent about it, simply because I always check up the name behind the artist name, when I her something I really like.
I can't be bothered to come up with different names. I've released breakbeat records and techno records under my real name, I will do the same when I make psy-trance tunes on my own.
Aliases are irrelevant, the music is what counts.
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Wizack Twizack
Wizack Twizack
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Posted : May 5, 2010 17:48
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all music that i do alone i call wizack twizack.. then i have another project with a mate called prime normal. my wizack tracks is everything from 100bpm to 160. but they all share the same genre wich is psychedelic so i dont feel the need of making new project names.
eventho some guys who clearly make lets say 150+bpm tracks only and then progressive it could be smart using 2 names.
cheers!
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Maine Coon
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Posted : May 5, 2010 18:21
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I think it depends on several things.
First of all, if you collaborate with different people, then surely different “artistic marriages” should have different names.
Then, if you are the same person/people all the time it depends on how descriptive your name already is. If your name is Silent Horror and you decide to produce New Age – there may be a problem. If your name is Ocelot this problem does not exist. So, I don’t know why he had to create two more projects for different styles (especially since he is known for his versatility as Ocelot already). I personally intend to write any kind of music that comes to my mind. And if ever I release any of it – it’s going to be under the same name. Since it’s pretty neutral already.
For radically different styles – I am still wondering, like you do. Should the same project produce Schranz and New Age? I am not sure. Could be confusing for the fans... But then where do you draw the line? Do you release your night full on and darkpsy under the same name but Suomi under a different one? Or you just call it all psychedelic and don’t bother about names? I didn’t figure it out yet.
Finally, there is a matter of branding. What do you want your name to be associated with? If you want people to say: “Ah, I know how he sounds – I’ll get his record” Or if you want them to say: “This guy is always a pleasant surprise – I’ll get his record” Two different things with the same result If I ask you what J.M. Jarre sounds like, you’ll come up with 20 different tracks. If I ask you the same about Yanni or Enya, you’ll probably hum a tune and tell me that the rest sounds exactly like it. So, it depends on whether you want curiosity or style recognition from your fans.
On a personal note, I think you’d be fine as Overdream for different styles.
On an even more personal note, please take a peek into the Kaleidoscopje thread before it drops off the front page. Thanks.
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Martian Arts
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Posted : May 5, 2010 18:32
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On 2010-05-05 18:21, Maine Coon wrote:
For radically different styles – I am still wondering, like you do. Should the same project produce Schranz and New Age? I am not sure. Could be confusing for the fans...
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Wtf is Schranz and New Age?
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Ascension
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Posted : May 5, 2010 18:39
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Overall though I don't think it matters as long as artists realize that it just makes it harder for fans to track their productions.
I can still remember back to when I didn't realize Androcell and Distant System were the same person . http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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Beat Agency
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Posted : May 5, 2010 19:07
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If you make the same music year after year people bitch. If you change the music under the same project name people bitch. Some people are too hard to keep happy.
It's logic that an artist use different project names for different projects. I have done it for years and feel its the right way. Otherwise people would bitch eternally.
It also gives me the possibility to experiment without feeling any pressure from those who bitch 
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Ascension
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Posted : May 5, 2010 19:11
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People will bitch no matter what you do though. GMS/Infected changed what they produce....
I just think it's a bad idea because it makes your productions harder to follow by those who don't keep a close eye on things- which is most people who listen to music. Even djs/people who do follow can't follow every artist name change. I'm constantly telling people hey this dude is the same as that dude and they never knew...
In the end, I don't think your artist name should determine what you produce. http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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Martian Arts
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Posted : May 5, 2010 19:26
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On 2010-05-05 19:11, Ascension wrote:
People will bitch no matter what you do though. GMS/Infected changed what they produce....
I just think it's a bad idea because it makes your productions harder to follow by those who don't keep a close eye on things- which is most people who listen to music. Even djs/people who do follow can't follow every artist name change. I'm constantly telling people hey this dude is the same as that dude and they never knew...
In the end, I don't think your artist name should determine what you produce.
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+1.
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Martian Arts
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Posted : May 5, 2010 19:47
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imho, its also a nice way to help people get out of their pigeon holes concerning sub genres in dance music. someone that likes "x" artist's techno tunes, will see in beatport (best case scenario) that "x" artist also makes psy-trance. Now some techno (most from my experience) punters, don't like psy-trance and have this superiority/inferiority complex against it, same goes for psy-trance punters, regarding techno music. It would help them grow out of their prejudiced minds and start listening to some psy-trance (or vise versa, techno music).
Win-win situation for me.
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Beat Agency
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Posted : May 5, 2010 19:58
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Xolvexs
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Posted : May 5, 2010 20:11
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i think unlike other music genres , the electronic in particular psytrance has the name associated with a style..like when you think dark you think xenomorph and if xenomorph made a morning full on album or even a track, the fans would label him a sell out, or vice versa if Astrix made something dark, his fans would label him a sell out...once the artist creates a brand perception its very difficult to breakout and breakaway from original or style people expect to hear..i mean 50cent may play the piano really well and maybe talented but if 50cent came on stage and performed with Simon Posford..u know how that would go
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Maine Coon
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Posted : May 5, 2010 21:02
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On 2010-05-05 18:32, disco hooligans wrote:
Wtf is Schranz and New Age?
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You are just pulling my leg, right? |
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Maine Coon
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Posted : May 5, 2010 21:05
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On 2010-05-05 20:11, Xolvexs wrote:
...once the artist creates a brand perception its very difficult to breakout and breakaway from original or style people expect to hear..
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...unless variety of styles is a part of the brand. If you start off as a versatile producer, you don't need a name change. Which brings me back to Ocelot's extra projects mystery... |
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