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Arpeggiator software suggestions please?
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anigbrowl
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Posted : Mar 2, 2008 04:16:46
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I love me an arpeggiator! But I'm sick of the 'standard' arpeggiator - you know, the type that gives you the options of up/down/up+down/random. I like the arps you find in some of the more 'dancey' synths in recent years - the Emu synths have arps that work something lke a step sequencer (rhythm patterns etc), and the Waldorf Q has a nice on that lets you program in ties and double-time notes on different steps.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to find a good software arpeggiator...they're either super-basic and usually crap, or they're like step sequencers and not chord-friendly, or they're hopelessly over-complicated, like most generative software.
What I'd like is something like a VST that's fairly programmable but doesn't have a million controls...something where you could tweak a few knobs with one hand while it plays and improvise changes in the pattern as you play chords with the other hand.
Regular arpeggiators are too rhythmically uniform for my taste, and the up and down movements of the notes gets boring too. Step sequncers are great (I use them a lot) but they're not much for improvisation.
I'm getting so frustrated that I'm thinking of making one myself, but I don't really want to spend 1 or 2 months programming the thing...I'd be better off saving the money for uQ or the Blofeld! |
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mubali
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Posted : Mar 3, 2008 01:11
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This might sound stupid, but why not spend the time to learn what makes up an arpeggio and just write them in midi? It's easier to do that than try to code a plugin to make "interesting" arpeggios.
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heretical
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Posted : Mar 3, 2008 21:13
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I've always wanted to find an arp like in the korg prophecy or the polyphonic arp in the Z1 but that seems to be a logic nightmere programming wise.
Sure you can do the same thing in a piano roll, just like theoretically you could learn to become a classical concert pianist and play them by hand live. Its more a question of the time involved if anything. |
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3l3ctromonk
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Posted : Mar 3, 2008 21:20
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Vanguard has some nice arps too!!
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ansolas
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Posted : Mar 4, 2008 02:25
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On 2008-03-03 01:11, mubali wrote:
This might sound stupid, but why not spend the time to learn what makes up an arpeggio and just write them in midi? It's easier to do that than try to code a plugin to make "interesting" arpeggios.
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Yeh of course, but playing stuff is more musically than just painting music. And Playing can be much faster than just painting the notes.
If you use hardware for exampel you can design your arpeggio while listening to it and when u like it you can record teh midi events.
Me at least prefers to twist knobs rather than painting.
lol:
http://www.kinderpolizei.at/kids/action/malen/malen_zahlen.jpg
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ansolas
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Posted : Mar 4, 2008 02:26
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On 2008-03-03 03:06, knocz wrote:
The z3ta+ has a great arpeg.
But my vote goes to fruityloops. In piano roll, with the arpeggiator tool you can create your own patterns in any wicked way possible (it seems like that's what you want)
Here's a screen shot of the FLBible, explaining this process.
http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flbiblezx3.png
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Pretty great indeed  and you can twist it while listening without to much painting. |
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ansolas
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Posted : Mar 4, 2008 02:30
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On 2008-03-03 21:13, heretical wrote:
I've always wanted to find an arp like in the korg prophecy or the polyphonic arp in the Z1 but that seems to be a logic nightmere programming wise.
Sure you can do the same thing in a piano roll, just like theoretically you could learn to become a classical concert pianist and play them by hand live. Its more a question of the time involved if anything.
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Yeah, but with that ucapps sequcer , I heard that u can trigger tweaked sequences with one key and transpose them. That releases one hand free wich u can use to modulate some parameters. That seq also has teh ability to snap to bars that you cannot trigger untight. |
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anigbrowl
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Posted : Mar 4, 2008 02:31
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Yes, I'm thinking hard about it - haven't built something like that before but I am VERY impressed with what it can do. |
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anigbrowl
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Posted : Mar 4, 2008 02:34
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On 2008-03-03 01:11, mubali wrote:
This might sound stupid, but why not spend the time to learn what makes up an arpeggio and just write them in midi?
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I do that already. But it's boring. I like playing with pattern generators because sometimes it leads to ideas that I wouldn't have come up with my by myself, I guess. Same way I build a lot of breaks and builds but putting drum patterns on loop and playing with the mute buttons...I could just copy and paste things into an arrangement but interacting often throws up new possibilities. |
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ansolas
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Posted : Mar 4, 2008 02:37
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On 2008-03-03 01:11, mubali wrote:
This might sound stupid, but why not spend the time to learn what makes up an arpeggio and just write them in midi?
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I do that already. But it's boring. I like playing with pattern generators because sometimes it leads to ideas that I wouldn't have come up with my by myself, I guess. Same way I build a lot of breaks and builds but putting drum patterns on loop and playing with the mute buttons...I could just copy and paste things into an arrangement but interacting often throws up new possibilities.
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bingo
You get good help in teh ucapps forum, Ive built a SID Synth some times ago and it was/is fun:) |
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Raoul V
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Posted : Mar 4, 2008 10:48
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predator arp is great...
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smehoparanoya
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Posted : Mar 4, 2008 12:23
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i also wanted to say about predator arp +1
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