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Are you vegetarian?

lord_bhairava


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Posted : Jun 10, 2009 20:44
the suffering, the fear that human have in relation with death is the reason that because they dont want people kill animals to survive, they think animals have that fears to death but thats not true, animals dont know what is death, human is the only animal who knows he gonna die someday.

vegetarianism is ignorance (with all respect)
Aluxe
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Posted : Jun 11, 2009 05:59
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vegetarianism is ignorance (with all respect)



With all due respect? LOL. Dude, are you aware of all the artists, scientists, philosphers, etc that are vegetarians?

For example, at some point in their life, both Einstein amd Charles Darwin, became vegetarians. They musy have been stupid right? or wait, I got it wrong, they were just ignorant. Clearly their brains were undernourished and full of ignorance.

Dude your comment is just plain stupid. Sorry..

hey consider the possibility that you may be assuming too much (like about the many reasons why people become vegetarians, about what animals think, etc) that might help

""There is no fundamental difference between man and the higher mammals in their mental faculties ... The difference in mind between man and the higher animals, great as it is, certainly is one of degree and not of kind."
-Charles Darwin
Xolvexs
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Posted : Jun 11, 2009 09:32
Hitler was a vegetarian and look what he turned out to be...Shiva, Krishna all ate meat so did Jesus, so did Muhammed...what i mean is that if you stopped or dont eat meat or are vegetarian does not automatically make you a superior being...its no big deal nor does vegetarianism have any connection with spirituality. Even Deepak Chopra eats meat           When death comes to your doorstep, make sure you are alive
Aluxe
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Posted : Jun 11, 2009 10:49
yeah though for a lot of people there is a connection between spirituality and vegetarianism. Sure it doesn't mean they are any better or indeed more spiritual but many people choose to become vegetarians for spiritual reasons.

There are many reasons why people become vegetarians, some people just do it because they don't like the taste of meat and not because of health, or the environmental benefits or even moral aspects.

And apparently Hitler was not really a vegetarian, he just reduced his meat consumption and believed it was healthier and that the future of the world would be vegetarianism. And he could be right, yeah as bad as he may have been as a person. And you know, Hitler also didn't smoke.. hehe, so much for generalisations.

What is fair pointing out is that nobody can deny the environmental implications of the meat industry anymore, we need people to be fully aware of this because the damage is monumental. Its like a giant mountain of crap that only needs to be pointed out and that with very little research anyone can see. You know it doesn't mean that eating meat is necessarily bad, but the OVERCONSUMPTION of meat in the world is defenitely BAD mmkay? SERIOUSLY, its having a tremendous impact on the invironment we all share, so I think its not only fair to point this out but NECESSARY.

Because even major meat eaters if they realize how much environmental damage their diet is causing they might eventually want to reduce it a little bit, and that can be extremely helpful if its done on a massive global scale.

But the first step is to admit the damage on the environment.
mk47
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Posted : Jun 11, 2009 11:51
oh come on , its just a corporate game , this new green thing , and they have the hippies completely suckered this time , i really don`t think eating more meat will be or in any way contribute to our planets demise , we`ll just end up paying another tax on our food effectively financing some cunt in an armani suit eating the best kobe beef @ the 4 seasons in bali or something
Xolvexs
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Posted : Jun 11, 2009 14:11
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On 2009-06-11 11:51, mk47 wrote:
oh come on , its just a corporate game , this new green thing , and they have the hippies completely suckered this time , i really don`t think eating more meat will be or in any way contribute to our planets demise , we`ll just end up paying another tax on our food effectively financing some cunt in an armani suit eating the best kobe beef @ the 4 seasons in bali or something




i eat kobe beef at the Wasabi in Taj Delhi and Mumbai that too in a pair of shorts a tye dye t-shirt and slippers
          When death comes to your doorstep, make sure you are alive
Aluxe
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Posted : Jun 12, 2009 03:32
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oh come on , its just a corporate game , this new green thing , and they have the hippies completely suckered this time



You almost make it sound like the green thing is all BS. As if there really ins't any pollution, deforestation and environmental degradation going on. Like it's all a hoax.. hehe

But you just need to travel a bit and its pretty obvious. I remember when I used to go looking for remote jungles in Mexico and how sad I was to learn that there were basically none left. You had to go really far to get the last remains. And everywhere the rivers have become grey, the same with the air in the cities. There used to be scarlet macaws and jaguars roaming around.. but in the last 50 years they have been pushed to the verge of extinction and there are only a few patches left of virgin forests. So fast.. its scary and sad to see these animals and old forests dissapear to be replaced by cattle ranches everywhere there is tropical jungle.

Its no hoax, environmental degradation is evident everywhere, you do not need a scientist to tell you. If you just travel a bit its pretty obvious and anybody can see it with their own eyes.
sure_smoke_alot
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Posted : Jun 12, 2009 07:29
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On 2009-06-11 09:32, Xolvexs wrote:

...Shiva, Krishna all ate meat




wen did that happen??           the problem with valuing art is, till u dont understand it, it's worthless but wen u do understand it, it's priceless!!
Sectio Aurea
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Posted : Jun 12, 2009 13:05
We are vegeterians almost 6 years...now slowly passin into vegan...
never felt better!!!           http://sectioaurea.bandcamp.com/
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http://www.sectioaurea.org
Jedi_knight
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Posted : Jun 18, 2009 01:17
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On 2009-06-10 20:44, lord_bhairava wrote:
the suffering, the fear that human have in relation with death is the reason that because they dont want people kill animals to survive, they think animals have that fears to death but thats not true, animals dont know what is death, human is the only animal who knows he gonna die someday.

vegetarianism is ignorance (with all respect)



This is not totally truth.
The animals don't know that they are going to die but when we kill them , they suffer a lot and their organism produce high toxins when they die brutally. That's why the meat we take from animal factories are not healthy. Ask someone who hunts to tell you the best meat comes from an animal that dies instantly without even knowing any thread. By the time the animal starts to panic or fear they produce toxins instantly inside their body.

          ---RealPsyLifeForRealPsyPeople---
Xolvexs
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Posted : Jun 18, 2009 16:21
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On 2009-06-18 01:17, Jedi_knight wrote:

This is not totally truth.







In spirituality there are no totalities and absolutes..           When death comes to your doorstep, make sure you are alive
Jedi_knight
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Posted : Jun 19, 2009 11:56
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On 2009-06-18 16:21, Xolvexs wrote:
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On 2009-06-18 01:17, Jedi_knight wrote:

This is not totally truth.







In spirituality there are no totalities and absolutes..




You are wrong!
The truth is truth only when it is absolute.
Half truth is a total lie...           ---RealPsyLifeForRealPsyPeople---
RaDioAcTiVe AcIdHeAd


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Posted : Jun 22, 2009 08:00
Vegeterianism is
eventually everyone has to go that way... there are many reasons for that and i feel thats the best and wat has to be done for now... until we attain the light bodies quitting meat is one step towards this process...
Maybe Hitler was right on this...

and who says animals don feel anything or they are dumb... maybe thinking this way is the dumbest/arrogant thing we can do...

          ?
toogoodforyou


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Posted : Jul 1, 2009 21:28
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On 2007-07-13 09:16, sure_smoke_alot wrote:
i cant belive that ppl. actually think that u cant be healty if u dont eat meat.
or to put it in a better way that u have to eat a lot of vegetables to be healthy coz u dont eat meat.

know ur body n how it works how every food u intake changes the working of the body, how the properties of each diff type of food change the way u think.

if u research on this (mind u every person has a diff metabolism & the climate he stays in differs as well so there cannot be a genral theroy) u'll be surprised to see how much food ur body actually needs.

peace




+1

Until few months back i believed in getting proteins and everything from non-vegetarian food too. I spoke shit about veg food and had non-veg everyday.

But from the past 2-3 months i have turned into a complete vegetarian. Ive been eating less and have also lost little weight, but i'm feeling extremely healthy. Digestive system is in top shape. My body feels light and good. Plus.... nice cows,pigs, fish are geting saved.
-Abatwa-
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Posted : Jul 10, 2009 20:07
haha classic.
meat eaters finding excuses and excuses. Its all good, do whatever you think is healthy for you mentally and physically but dont try to justify this by pissing on other peoples values and beliefs.
peace
          `Bottomless wonders spring from simple rules, which are repeated without end` Mandelbrot
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