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Are you a numrelogy person?

Pt.
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Posted : Jan 15, 2009 01:37:41
Isn't it kind of ,,dangoures" to go the path of numrelogy and similer stuff?


Just curious about your opinion.



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k.t
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Posted : Jan 15, 2009 02:16
heii man wats up long time no see - how r u
did u know a lotta numerology n stuff exists in india as well - lots of people change the spelling of their names - change their addresses because they have been foretold .
its not uncommon here even to find big bollywood actors and cricketers change the spelling of their names to change their luck hrhrhrhr           ------------------------------------
enter the time of CounterCulture !
Pt.
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Posted : Jan 15, 2009 02:45
Hi man! I'm good

Well, whats your personal opinion about this? I don't want to say that numrology can be psychologically ,,damaging", because like many subjects of mental health, this is very individual. But I see some people that can drve them self a littlebit nuts from taking numrology and other simular subjects too serious. Personally I have been a firm believer of reason and coincidents. But in the latest years my mind has grown softer to these things.. And to be honest, despite all the wonderful and magical coincidents that I have noticed within this subject, I'm not a fan of this because.. well maybe because I don't fully understand it.

To quote Sol Robeson in the movie 'PI': Hold on. You have to slow down. You're losing it. You have to take a breath. Listen to yourself. You're connecting a computer bug I had with a computer bug you might have had and some religious hogwash. You want to find the number 216 in the world, you will be able to find it everywhere. 216 steps from a mere street corner to your front door. 216 seconds you spend riding on the elevator. When your mind becomes obsessed with anything, you will filter everything else out and find that thing everywhere.

Btw, my silly lucky number has been 8 because 1) On most Cd's track number 8 is one of the best tracks represented on the CD. 2) It's ever lasting.

And you have colours, meaning of colours. Is there a place where I can read about meanings of colours? Colours I see on people, walls ect. What does it all mean?



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Posted : Jan 15, 2009 04:06
mathematics being the language of the universe n all, numbers do play certain important roles.

like the fibonacci series.. 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13.... where the first number is 0 and the second 1, and the subsequent numbers resulting from the addition of the previous 2 numbers. it was discovered and used by indian mathematicians as early as 600 BC.. these numbers occur a lot in nature. like the way flower patterns emerge, the growth of a aries/ram's horn, the arrangement of leaves on the stem of a plant, spiralling nature of galaxies and even shells, etc to mention a few.

such mathematical numerologies were used in occult practices by ancient people all around the world. about a number being lucky or unlucky, its hard to substantiate.. kinda reminds me of 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42 from Lost           24 hours ~ full power ~ no shower
sure_smoke_alot
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Posted : Jan 15, 2009 07:04
well i think it's more of a placebo, works fine until u don't know it's a placebo           the problem with valuing art is, till u dont understand it, it's worthless but wen u do understand it, it's priceless!!
Kaz
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Posted : Jan 15, 2009 07:41
Quote:

On 2009-01-15 07:04, sure_smoke_alot wrote:
well i think it's more of a placebo, works fine until u don't know it's a placebo


wait, what?

Anyways - numbers are symbols, and can represent many things, and as such, you can learn a lot from them, gain great insights from their use and applications, and find surprising correlations in seemingly unrelated things using them.

Of course, between this and saying the universe works according to numbers there is a rift, the one between knowledge and belief. Numbers are abstract, and as such have no power beyond what we give them. Give them too much power, and they will control you. Give them none, and they are useless.

Numerology is belief. It is a form of religion. You probably ascertained that I'm no believer, but as with any religion - it can be taken to positive places, or to very dire ones. For the most part, it's a harmless practice that gives people a way to cope with decisions, and helps them feel right with solutions they've already thought of but weren't sure enough to go with them.

Myself - I quite like numbers. Mathematics is very enlightening in many ways. But as I said earlier - numerology isn't me.          http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222
Gopendragon
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Posted : Jan 19, 2009 08:46
Numerological systems can give all the knowledge about god,about past futere and present,like Kabbala,or Pythagoras's ancient numerological system,or the mayan calendar system,or...just do the mathematics and discover everything,universe is made of numbers,music as a digital code is numbers.
It is very interesting science to study!           ~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
After the End,a new Begining startS..
Gopendragon
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Posted : Jan 19, 2009 12:47
http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/n/numerology.html

check this link and do the numerology test of Pythagoras, the father of numerology..

I done it and my characteristics are
perfection,harmony,ballance

u can also combine ur name with the adress of ur home to see if this house is good or bad fro u,u can also combine with ur friends numerology and add them togetehr,u can see how well or bad relation u may have...
          ~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
After the End,a new Begining startS..
Kaz
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Posted : Jan 19, 2009 16:13
According to Pythagoras, all numbers could be defined as a fraction of whole numbers. This is wrong. On a very fundamental level - he didn't understand numbers. The story (at the moment, it's status is myth) goes that a student of his proved that wrong, showed his master the proof, and on Pythagoras's command - the other students drown him.

Oh, and numerology is NOT a science, just as palm-reading isn't.           http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222
Gopendragon
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Posted : Jan 21, 2009 21:08
@Kaz can u proove me this proove u said?

I dont know about this u say,maybe it happened..but I dont think so..
Please read something more about what this man done ...on the ancientr years those who was studying gnosis,astronomy,science,mathematics,also studying,mysticism,occults...and alot of other gnosis that now universities dont have idea.
Pythagoras traveled alone from greece to egypt,he wanted to study the egyptian gnosis,the egyptians dindt want him because he was greek,but gods was with Pythagoras,and they forced egyptians to let him be a studentt.
Egyptians knew that he was the best discpiple of all so they was worriyng about that.
They send him to pass the most difficult tasks,that nobody ever passed,and he did it very easy,in the end he was this one disciple who passed all those extremely difficult tests,that nobodyy before ever passed them.
Pyuthorian theory on mathematics is just only one example of his science.
And by the way this numerology I say about his ancient system is only for greek letters,greek language,english wanst exist when Pythagoras lived.
This one I gave on the link is just a game.
          ~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
After the End,a new Begining startS..
Kaz
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Posted : Jan 21, 2009 22:47
The story I told may or may not be true - but it is a fact that Pythagoras strongly disbelieved in the existence of irrational numbers (such as Pi or e). How about I ask you to prove some of those stories? Do you know that the earliest writing about Pythagoras that survived was written about 700 years after his death? There is no record of the fact that the Egyptians didn't approve of him - actually, he studied in more than one place there, and considering the rule in Egypt at the time - if they would have disliked him in any way, they would have just killed him. If he'd be considered a heretic there, nothing would protect him, not even Zeus

The Pythagoreans were not only a school, but rather a cult, following rules that may seem absurd, like not eating beans, the rule of silence (punishable by death), not stepping over crossbars, and others. No one knows exactly what Pythagoras actually gave mathematics - some even question whether he was the greatest mathematician in his own cult. 200 years of development later, Euclid wrote his greatest work, leaning on Pythagorean work... so the Pythagoreans are at least partially responsible for axiomatic geometry.           http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222
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Posted : Jan 26, 2009 06:20

Once an indian man told me about it and then he told me what my number is.

It's cool but I try not to get into these things alot for the same reason that you guys mentioned: more you get into it, more it starts effecting you



Zoolog
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 13:01
...no!           www.parvati-records.com
moki
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Posted : Feb 5, 2009 03:39
god is a number. well it can be seen as any number. but it is mathematics and numbers at the end of the day. numerology plays enormous role in any sacred tradition....at least in any tradition that i know....
it is questionable how you define numerology.
but as far as sacred numbers are concerned, you meet them in any religion. like 3 or 12 or 13 or 23 or 666....or whatever...the ultimate unendlessness of numbers...
and we are a number ourselves as far as we are defined as a spirit born under certain astronomical conditions...astronomy is only numbers too...
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