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Are machines realy needed?
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Squarepusher
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Posted : May 18, 2006 22:07
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On 2006-05-18 14:49, sy000321 wrote:
hehehe... the most quiet hardware vs software thread i've seen... ehheheh
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im completely in favour of software m8,but,like i said there is some stuff that cant be beaten by software YET(not considering TDM plugs)... and im not talking about the analogue to digital debate,im talking in dedicated DSP chips !! |
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Boobytrip
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Posted : May 18, 2006 22:53
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On 2006-05-18 21:11, Colin OOOD wrote:
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On 2006-05-18 14:16, Boobytrip wrote:
Your music will sound as good as the weakest link in your studio chain permits:
synth - mixer - monitors - listening environment - your ears and experience
IMO the weakest link is often not the use of soft- or hardware synths, but other factors.
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In my experience it's generally not the mixer, the monitors or the listening environment either.
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Yep ! But i keep on hoping it's something i can buy 
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 18, 2006 23:03
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On 2006-05-18 22:53, Boobytrip wrote:
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On 2006-05-18 21:11, Colin OOOD wrote:
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On 2006-05-18 14:16, Boobytrip wrote:
Your music will sound as good as the weakest link in your studio chain permits:
synth - mixer - monitors - listening environment - your ears and experience
IMO the weakest link is often not the use of soft- or hardware synths, but other factors.
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In my experience it's generally not the mixer, the monitors or the listening environment either.
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Yep ! But i keep on hoping it's something i can buy
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You can, for only £40 an hour.
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Boobytrip
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Posted : May 18, 2006 23:32
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Oh, i meant something i could buy with my soul 
£40 an hour is coke, right ?
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UnderTow
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Posted : May 19, 2006 00:55
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£40 an hour could be a mix engineer's fee.
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UnderTow
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Posted : May 19, 2006 00:56
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On 2006-05-18 22:07, Squarepusher wrote:
im completely in favour of software m8,but,like i said there is some stuff that cant be beaten by software YET(not considering TDM plugs)... and im not talking about the analogue to digital debate,im talking in dedicated DSP chips !!
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TDM is software. Anyway, care to give any examples?
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 19, 2006 01:09
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Loren
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Posted : May 19, 2006 01:56
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Well my friends, i can give u an example...do u like Rinkadink???
I fucking love it, and who could tell, doesn´t use any machine, only VST´s.
My psycaotic friends, i think i will not buy a synth, at least for now...eheh
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Squarepusher
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Posted : May 19, 2006 04:31
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On 2006-05-19 00:56, UnderTow wrote:
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On 2006-05-18 22:07, Squarepusher wrote:
im completely in favour of software m8,but,like i said there is some stuff that cant be beaten by software YET(not considering TDM plugs)... and im not talking about the analogue to digital debate,im talking in dedicated DSP chips !!
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TDM is software. Anyway, care to give any examples?
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Well TDM is software...Yes it is!!But runs in dedicated DSP (mixfarm cards),considering this software is also considering my Virus TI software(runs on software and dedicated DSP Chips and Mobo)!!!
Hmmm examples....
In my own studio experience i can give you my new TC D-two and TC fireworx,D-two is a unique piece of equipment wich i have been waiting to be released for my powercore as a plugin(impossible due to memory issues with the Poco)!!Also the fireworx has some gr8 Fx´s combo´s exquisite internal architecture,capable of mouth watering FX
Then you have the Hardware Compressor field,i have the 1176LN,pultec and LA2A from Uad-1 card wich are also sold in TDM protocol,i´ve never listened to the real deal of any of these, but considering the price tag,i assume they must be better than the software cousins !!
IMO we will have to wait a few more years to get in a pro-recording studio and see just a computer like a multi task tool !!!
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£40 an hour is coke, right ?
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ROTFLMAO
This was funny Boobytrip !!!
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Boobytrip
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Posted : May 19, 2006 11:31
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On 2006-05-19 01:09, Colin OOOD wrote:
I was more thinking along the lines of production tuition but if there's anyone willing to pay me £40 p/h to mix their tune I'd be up for that too
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Aha ! Well, when you're in Holland or when i'm in England in the near future i'll be happy take a production lesson with you And if that doesn't work, i can always sell my soul 
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MercuryFall
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Posted : May 19, 2006 12:10
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Kitnam
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Posted : May 19, 2006 12:14
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imo software has bad workflow.
and workflow is fucking important for transfering creativity into direkt output. |
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PoM
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Posted : May 19, 2006 20:04
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imo with hardware you tweak and bam it s sound good that s the big plus.with vsti you need more time and maybe more skill. |
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Pavel
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Posted : May 19, 2006 21:54
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On 2006-05-19 12:14, Kitnam wrote:
imo software has bad workflow.
and workflow is fucking important for transfering creativity into direkt output.
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Try to work with Nord Modular then. You'll go back to VST in seconds.
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FaceHead
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Posted : May 19, 2006 22:26
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yes but the sounds are just so much more crisp I have gotten many great sounds out of software and for wierdness I prefer it but for sweeps and griity saws etc. hardware is just better quality. its just a preference you dont need it to make good tracks but if you like it use it.
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