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Are computers with pci express gfx cards good for music?

UIU
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Posted : May 7, 2005 04:46
I heared that pci express gfx cards hog the pci bus and cause problems with low latency sound cards. is that true?
EYB
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Posted : May 7, 2005 07:04
i don't think so

if u have a pci express card u need a pci express slot, so i think gfx stuff will work fine and sound will work fine

i don't know it 100%

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UIU
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Posted : May 7, 2005 07:41
You have heared of people suggesting not to use network cards on audio pcs? Cause they can cause pops and clicks(I had a problem like this with wireless)? I think it will be something similar. There is a difference between using your computer for everyday use and using your computer for pro audio.
Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 7, 2005 14:48
You don't want to use a regular-style PCI graphics card alongside a PCI soundcard as this will probably cause problems. I've not used any PCI Express stuff but I think it should be fine; check the hardware forum on www.cubase.net and see if anyone has asked this question before.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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High Pulse
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Posted : May 7, 2005 16:42
pci express is simply bether than regular pci , regular pci bus freq is at 66mhz , pci express is at 166 or 266 mhz , depending on wich system we are talkinng , about the lan card etc etc etc , why use lan shit card ? when u can use firewire , firewire work with qa ddiferent protocol more fast and its sended in bigger packets ,

and UIUthe express were made to prevent this issue , express doesn't hang your system , is made only to give u more and fast access to your hardware

im using express on my g5 , running with a gforce 5600 ultra fx , and the previous sound card was delta 1010 lt and it was running with any any any stress at all i needed to change it in the store to support the express tecnology , but now running with motu bether indeed

so , resuming it will be a benefict having pci xpress

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thockin


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Posted : May 7, 2005 21:36
The short answer is that PCI-E for graphics is probably fine.

The long answer is that it depends completely on your chipset and motherboard. A badly designed mobo can put bottlenecks between otherwise fast devices.
UIU
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Posted : May 8, 2005 02:23
Thanks guyz. Can you have a look at this? This thread
http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=72286&highlight=pci+express
was the one that got me worried.
Maybe it is a leptop specific problem.
thockin


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Posted : May 8, 2005 03:34
It has everything to do with the chipset and motherboard. Everything.

Think of it as a road map. Intel and AMD have different base architectures, but let's explore Intel.

There is a road between the CPUs and the North Bridge (the Front Side Bus).

There is a road between the NB and the memory (the memory bus).

There is a road between the NB and the South Bridge (the Hublink bus).

Each of those roads has a width (how many cars can be on the road at the same time) and a speed (how fast the cars travel).

I've told you about the core chips, but left off PCI and PCIe. That's because PCI/PCIe might be anywhere. To get PCI/PCIe, you use a bridge. The PCI and PCIe bridges might be inside the NB, or inside the SB.

PCI "roads" are fairly wide and slow. PCIe roads are fairly narrow but really fast. What happens when a really fast road merges into a really slow one? You get a traffic jam.
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