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Anyone from Israel heard about this shit ? ? ! !

Bodhisattva
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Posted : Nov 11, 2010 17:33:50
Bad news for us music buyers from Israel.

Apparently, starting from next year we will have to pay 38 shekels in order to get any package we ordered from abroad. This will apply on every package that is under 50 dollars worth including shipping cost. The fee on packages over 50 dollars will be even higher.

This is absolutely outrages !

Check this out
http://www.ynet.co.il/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,2506,L-3980517,00.html

There is a petition against it here.
http://www.atzuma.co.il/tax



mattman


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Posted : Nov 11, 2010 17:44
Seems like the government is enganging in protective tariffs. We've got that too. Anything over 30 dollars in value, and we have to pay a fee of 10 dollars + 24% of the value to get it through customs. Shit sucks, man.           Goa Goa-trance & Psytrance parties in Oslo, Norway:

http://www.facebook.com/RotorUnderholdning
Bodhisattva
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Posted : Nov 11, 2010 17:49
Quote:

On 2010-11-11 17:44, mattman wrote:
Seems like the government is enganging in protective tariffs. We've got that too. Anything over 30 dollars in value, and we have to pay a fee of 10 dollars + 24% of the value to get it through customs. Shit sucks, man.




Yes, same here - 38 shekels is 10 dollars.

This will suck indeed !

Edit:
Though it will be worse here because according to this new shit, we will have to pay a 10 dollars fee on everything that is Under 50 dollars.

The current situation is that we can order up to 100 dollar without paying any fee. Only over 100 dollar we start to pay fees.

mattman


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Posted : Nov 11, 2010 17:50
The only thing we can get through for free is books. Norway isn't part of the EU, our wages are high, but our prices are also high. That means that the gov't here wants to protect our market which otherwise would be completely crushed price-wise. A CD in the store here costs around 35 dollars.           Goa Goa-trance & Psytrance parties in Oslo, Norway:

http://www.facebook.com/RotorUnderholdning
Misha_
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Posted : Nov 11, 2010 18:01
In Serbia we have similar rule,but it doesnt apply on orders lower than 20 euros.Also this rule doesnt apply on books,cd's and medicine.For all other shipments that are over 20 euros you have to pay 20% of value because customs.           www.soundmute-recordings.com
Bodhisattva
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Posted : Nov 11, 2010 18:02
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On 2010-11-11 17:50, mattman wrote: A CD in the store here costs around 35 dollars.




Here it's like 25 more or less.

A big part of the problem for me is that most of the music I order from abroad can't be found in Israel.
Bodhisattva
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Posted : Nov 11, 2010 18:10
From what I know, here, this crap will apply on everything, books, music, everything. . .
TechMonkey
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Posted : Nov 11, 2010 19:51
That sounds exorbitant! $10 fee on anything up to $50? I hope this changes before it comes into effect.

If it does go through, it may be best to find a compromise. Possibly download lossless/high-quality MP3 from file shares and donate to the artist? Not the same as holding the CD in your hand, but it saves you paying almost double the price due to the import fees. :/
Sputer
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Posted : Nov 11, 2010 22:13
look at the bright side.. they still dont charge us when we download from servers out of Israel           ..."Be yourself, let your conscience guide you...
Follow your heart, not the people around you"
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Bodhisattva
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Posted : Nov 12, 2010 17:56
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On 2010-11-11 19:51, TechMonkey wrote:
That sounds exorbitant! $10 fee on anything up to $50? I hope this changes before it comes into effect.

If it does go through, it may be best to find a compromise. Possibly download lossless/high-quality MP3 from file shares and donate to the artist? Not the same as holding the CD in your hand, but it saves you paying almost double the price due to the import fees. :/





Yes, hopefully this shit will not come into effect, as I really don't want to stop buying CDs and other stuff from abroad. Indeed the digital option is not the same, and as a music lover and collector yourself TechMonkey I'm sure you understand how much this will suck if it will indeed come into effect.


TechMonkey
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Posted : Nov 12, 2010 18:48
Ya. I totally understand. I would be _pissed_. This seems like it would affect enough people to where a lot of people would be writing the gov't to voice their disagreement. The links were all in Hebrew. Does the article explain why they are imposing these fees?
Bodhisattva
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Posted : Nov 12, 2010 19:25
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On 2010-11-12 18:48, TechMonkey wrote:
Ya. I totally understand. I would be _pissed_. This seems like it would affect enough people to where a lot of people would be writing the gov't to voice their disagreement. The links were all in Hebrew. Does the article explain why they are imposing these fees?




Yes, it does. But you can read a very short article in English about it here:
http://www.haaretz.com/themarker/mks-move-to-stamp-out-post-office-s-customs-fees-1.324071
Bodhisattva
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Posted : Nov 14, 2010 13:40
Update !

The post office vice-president said on the radio today that in contradiction to the news online, the 10 dollars fee ( 38 shekels ) will apply only on packages Over 50 dollars worth and on books Over 70 dollars worth.
http://www.iba.org.il/bet/bet.aspx?type=1&topic=5&entity=689614

Cheers !


iTranscendence
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Posted : Nov 15, 2010 10:41
This doesn't seem like a tariff to me. Tariff's usually denote that a country is trying to protect a commodity being manufactured in their country from it's price being undermined by a foreign market. It's more like a VAT tax where value is being added to the commodity purely for the reason that it allows the government to dip its dirty little fingers into whatever they want. By far the most pernicious of any form of questionable taxation.           blip.fm/itranscendence
Bodhisattva
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Posted : Nov 15, 2010 13:07
Quote:

On 2010-11-14 13:40, Bodhisattva wrote:
Update !

The post office vice-president said on the radio today that in contradiction to the news online, the 10 dollars fee ( 38 shekels ) will apply only on packages Over 50 dollars worth and on books Over 70 dollars worth.
http://www.iba.org.il/bet/bet.aspx?type=1&topic=5&entity=689614

Cheers !






^Well these are good news.

here is some more
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3984659,00.html

It seems that things will be fine in the end, well, hopefully.

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