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Anyone ever copied a song, to get to learn how a song is constructed?
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Djones
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Posted : Jun 8, 2007 11:20
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I wonder if this is a good idea.
Since I really get stuck on some parts of my songs, like intro, breaks and the rest besides a nice loop  |
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diskonekt
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Posted : Jun 8, 2007 11:55
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Yeah once, but i got bored half way and dropped it 
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Elad
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Posted : Jun 8, 2007 13:16
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well , listen is the key not copy
i know some peaple better with create the sounds and some better in placing them right...
practice i guess is the key , but if u like to copy a song or 2 , make sure u start with something superb
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Alias
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Posted : Jun 8, 2007 13:27
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hi
you no need to feel a shame if you copy the structure of the track!
learning=change
thats all!
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bukboy
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Posted : Jun 8, 2007 13:57
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I think its the best way to learn all the necessary components of a track and continuity amongst them.
Im sure theres artists out there who simply recombine elements from different peoples tracks.
Anyway Im sure that once u understand what the necessities are, ul be able to make up your own variations and not feel like ur ripping any1 off. Carry on...
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Jun 8, 2007 14:59
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I've done it a few times and i found it really helpful for understanding which elements are normally used and how tension is built. Anyhow, different grooves and melodies need different structures, so if you want to use the techniques in your own tracks you can't just copy them one-on-one, but you need to use your own imagination again. Every musician starts by playing other people's music, i think copying is a basic element of learning to make music.
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psiwyber
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Posted : Jun 8, 2007 15:36
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a specific genre has certain set of rules and structure...so its pretty much learning
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Spindrift
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Posted : Jun 8, 2007 15:39
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I been thinking about doing it ages ago but never did, but I guess it could be a good exercise.
Learning from others is a good thing, has nothing to do with lack of creativity and doesn't need to mean that you will make generic music with no identity of it's own.
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DJSarasin
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Posted : Jun 8, 2007 21:59
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Posted : Jun 9, 2007 19:02
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i do this all the time hey. i wish i could sit down with the artist and talk about what they did but for me thats pretty unlikely to happen.
straightout copying isn't on. but, if you were to study music at university or wherever, you'd spend half your time analysing and decomposing classics, and the other writing your own stuff.
the people who go 'oh just make your own stuff' are talking out their ass. yes, make your own stuff, but theres a lot you can learn by taking apart tracks, and name me one serious composer in the last 100 years who hasn't studied bach or mozart. even those atonal sophisticated music types studied the classics very hard to get where they are.
i like to take apart whole albums, when i get the time. then you can really get into the artists headspace and see what they were doing. you'll soon learn the difference between an artist and a mimic who writes filler just to get sets. in the end you get a better definition of what YOU want to do with your music, and valuble ideas you can build on and make your own. |
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PoM
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Posted : Jun 10, 2007 14:48
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Djones if you get stuck try a other way of working , maybe sart by the end of the track or things like that,it s easier to get a full pattern and then work the progression to this pattern ,or try to make a pattern with all the rythmic elements and make lof of leads and fx that work well together it s should be enought to build the full track just by placing the sound like a puzzle.if you try to follow a other track you ll be too much limited, i m sure it ll take more time than just writing a track.every artists have a different flow , so just find yours and the workflow that suit you the best |
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captain-kirk
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Posted : Jun 10, 2007 19:21
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i think most important rule about the structure of a song is that NEVER GO BACK!!
well there are some exeptions but in that case the part your repeating should be better than life it self!
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jun 10, 2007 21:58
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I think its okay to use structures as a reference, but perhaps not just plainly steal riffs and breaks.
But copying structures can be extremely beneficial to learning how to write.
Track writing is just as big a skill as synthesis - we all spend years trying to get 'that' sound for bass and kick and perc and synths, doesn't it make just as much sense to spend time on learning structure?
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-aeon-
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Posted : Jun 12, 2007 09:24
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trying to recreate a track note-for-note can be incredibly useful.
it's not just learning about structure - recreating individual synth sounds and midi patterns helps you to think outside your normal norms |
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