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Any technique to play chill out music?
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chefchaouen
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Posted : May 9, 2009 17:19:58
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I wish to know trics, or special technique that dj of chill out normally use to play during the dj sets.
I saw many times that chill ot djs just play tunes when is a silent in a track 
Even my grandma can do that!!!
all the proposals or suggestions are really wellcome.
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Psynthex
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Posted : May 9, 2009 18:15
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well... whenever i play chill out... i mostly use break intros.. so i mix breaks ( on the low bpm range of course.. ) and than i try to loop a break..and put a the other track inside, pulling the track emotion by playing with some effects...and sounds in the track..so the break loop get aways during the sound playing..and when the kick comes in..the previous track is off 
thats my way how to mix chill... but sometimes i do psybient breaks.. ad i mix every track for 2 minutes at least...just to "liquid" them together..
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supergroover
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Posted : May 11, 2009 02:03
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you can also beatmatch chill out. And you can add a few cd players or fx machines. I sometimes add a third cd player for a third track, fx sounds, vocal samples or pads etc.
Beatmatching chill out is actually quite entertaining  |
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Tamara
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Posted : May 17, 2009 17:06
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Well depends of the tracks that you want to mix, and weather the ambient tracks are calm or faster...I rarely use beat matching because I play very different tracks, just to maintain the mood and emotion...I usually cue the next track and mix it for a minute at most...And yes the third channel is always nice so you can play some extra samples:).
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Basilisk
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Posted : May 18, 2009 00:21
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The other thing you can do is amass a huge collection of chill, analyze for BPM and key, and then actually beatmatch from time to time instead of simply pushing the crossfader over when the tunes go purely ambient... honestly, the standard for DJing chill out is rock bottom; I rarely hear anyone worth paying the least amount of attention to. If you put just about any amount of effort into DJing chill I'm sure you'll do well. In the meantime, perhaps someone can explain to me how the style with the largest creative breadth is typically DJ'd with the least amount of creativity... well, within the psytrance scene anyway--I've seen creative chill DJing outside of it at least. Still, WTF? Chill seems like just an afterthought to too many people spinning it...
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Tamara
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Posted : May 19, 2009 02:03
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definitely not an afterthought to me! I love the music I play, I listen to it at home, I have fun during it's performance...but I am still quite unexperienced with equipment so I tend not to experiment too much:).
I do that too:) I have a huge collection and analyze it...but rarely it gets to it that two tracks have similar bpm that I want to play...so beatmatching comes from time to time, in 20 tracks maybe 4 times.
The last time I played there was a "dj" coming after me, that was just starting the track(4 cds he brought) and he was sitting with his friends while it played, and than returned to the booth just to turn the crosfader...many do so.
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Ascension
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Posted : May 19, 2009 15:29
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I agree with Basilisk on some of what he said. Some djs don't put much effort into chill sets. Around here I've seen more people taking time to actually plan out chill sets though. Now that I've started making my own chill music, I've definitely put more time into it because I really enjoy it. I think a lot of the time organizers just put people on the chill stage to fill time or because they're going to be there helping anyway and might as well play something. Chilluminati has even had a chill artist as a headliner for a major outdoor event before (Earthdance 2006).
I don't think there's anything wrong with ambient mixing all of your chill tracks as long as the selection is there. Beatmatching is not hard to do, but I think that not beatmatching in a chill set doesn't make it any worse.
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supergroover
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Posted : May 20, 2009 01:25
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I also find that there isnt often a really nice chill out setting to really put any effort into your set. It s often two crappy cd players (pitchable if you are lucky) with a crappy mixer.
Even on Fusion festival this was the case. I had to fix a working cd player at the trance stage... So for this year we demanded 3 cdj 200/1000's
I must say though that that was the best chill out i have ever seen! A huge circular space with a big fire in the middle with around 400-500 people chilling.
Beatmatching chill out is easy and really adds to the experience imho. Its nicer to blend tracks that way than just the ambient endings. And many tracks outside the narrow genre of psychill often don't even have ambient endings.
there is soooo much more than just psychill, but I hardly ever hear anything else than psychill.. Odd...
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Basilisk
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Posted : May 20, 2009 20:27
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Yeah, there is the matter of cross-pollination between genres as well... I always like to spice my chill sets up with some Amon Tobin or something.
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Ascension
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Posted : May 22, 2009 16:43
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In the end the goal is to keep the flow (or not, if that's your intention) which can be done by beatmatching or not beatmatching. You just have to determine which will fit your style. You don't have to always beatmatch tracks nor do you have to always not beatmatch tracks.
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Basilisk
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Posted : May 24, 2009 02:41
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Sure, and that's the point. I think you could drive yourself mad trying to beatmatch everything... and bore the hell out of people by never beatmatching. Some intermediate is the way to go.
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Ascension
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Posted : May 24, 2009 19:46
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I think with just the way chillout music is, there's so much more you can do to spice up a chill set. I'm working on incorporating some live aspects into my chill set by setting up a drum rack in ableton and doing some drumming/adding other percussion sounds with my padkontrol.
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O-I
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Posted : Jun 12, 2009 00:52
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It's been said many times before but I would agree that the flow of the tracks is the most important factor when mixing chillout music as this is determined by good track selection and knowledge of which tracks sit well together rather than if they are beatmatched or not. I've played a few sets with good response without really mixing that much because I take the time to prepare my sets and really make sure that the tracks are selected to flow nicely. Keeping the rhythmn moving by dropping the next track without long ambient sections between each track is key here - I hate it when tracks have too much of a break between each other, ie the Dj is just mixing the intro and outro together without too much thought.... I think this will be the case if preparation and track knowledge are not good.
I'm building up a collection of samples and percussion to add into tracks to try and create more atmosphere with my sets, there is much fun to be had this way too. I'm still learning, but I know all I want to do is enjoy each set I play so I guess that's the main thing.
And I hope psy chill Dj's will experiment with other styles a bit more too, try some mininal techno, some spacious progressive or quirky trip hop - will keep people much more interested than the typical psy ambient sound, I'm trying to stretch my ears this way too |
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O-I
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Posted : Jun 17, 2009 15:41
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...it can take a lot of playing around with but you will notice that the tracks that flow together the best will hardly need mixing at all, they appear to merge seamlessly as the first track winds down and the next one begins. It can be quite rewarding to find tracks that do this, its almost like they are meant to be together ! As long as the beats of the new track begin without too much intro then the flow continues.... |
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