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THE MONKEE
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Posted : Mar 27, 2005 17:23
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Downloaded there "say it" software the other day and found it can do a reasonable job,with its pitch and speed parameters.
An idea of mine to stop(slow)pirating down is to produce "written and produced by ..." with analogx,master it a little and drop it thru a section of my track,works a treat.
When i submit a demo now it will have this signiture in it which protects the track a little and highlights who`s made it while being played.If they like and sign me,i remove signiture on final track submission.GoodLuck
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Mar 27, 2005 19:07
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This can work really well; we've been doing this for a couple of years now (with a pitch-shifted recorded vocal rather than a computer-generated one). We've sent loads of demos out and so far none of the tracks has appeared on the net (as far as I'm aware!).
You've probably covered all these points, but you might want to think about the placing of the sample in the track; our sample has two phrases, and I generally place it in the breakdown of the track so that the gap between the two phrases comes at the exact point where the track kicks in again. This lets the listener hear how the track flows but hopefully stops the really dedicated pirate from editing out the sample. It's also a good idea to duck the level of the track by about 12dB while the sample is playing, otherwise you run the risk of clipping.
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orik
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Posted : Mar 27, 2005 20:03
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what is it that u drop with in your track?
and how axactly can it be detected later?
(ive never seen this pluggin...)
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THE MONKEE
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Posted : Mar 28, 2005 16:11
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Maybe as the track goes into a break or hiding between a big fat kick,a small vocal sample of your producer name made with anologx(www.analogx.com)or u can mess about with Windows Narrator,it would also showcase a level of skill to get it right and creative,which would only help you get released.
The demo you first submit is not always the one Labels would use on a Comp,but rather an even more polished version and with maybe a few changes that they want ,you simply delete the wav out of the track.Thanks also Colin000D for your advise,wellwicked
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Mar 28, 2005 16:42
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To my mind it's not so much about being creative... the first version of the spoiler I made had pads and loads of effects; it sparkled and sounded wicked. The only thing was it sounded too good, so I stripped it right back to a plain, pitch-shifted, slightly ugly-sounding but very intelligible vocal sample; something that made it utterly obvious as to why it was there.
Wavelab is perfect for making demos as you can set up a track in a montage for the music and another for the spoiler, and automate the music levels to make room for the sample. Then when you want to send a clean version out you just mute the spoiler track and delete the volume automation.
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psypox
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Posted : Mar 28, 2005 19:18
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zooter
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 08:08
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On 2005-03-27 19:07, Colin OOOD wrote:
This lets the listener hear how the track flows but hopefully stops the really dedicated pirate from editing out the sample.
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sorry for my ignorance...but how does your technique prevent the pirate from removing the sample?
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 15:02
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fregle
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Posted : Mar 30, 2005 18:17
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tnx a lot guys  i'll apply this from now on....
here's a great way to stop most pirates (the file-sharers more specifically). U won't be able to stop the guys who use IRC or pubs with this trick though...
To irritate file-sharers u can make several different mp3's of ur song, all of them bad... a few that miss parts of the song, a number that are encoded badly, a couple with a lot of hiss or noise on it. then make copies of them in different names, even adding some common typos (like OOD instead of OOOD ) as copies.
Then spread them on as much file-sharing services u can, as vigurously as u can, to get it spread out as widely as possible... The target is to make the bad copies infinitely more common then the good rips, so people can't find the good rips anymore...
since most people (95%) use file-sharing to get illegal copies u will have deterred all pirates except the ones who have enough knowledge of the pirate-scene that they don't need file-sharing. The guys who know the pubs, and the IRC-addicts to be more specific... |
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fregle
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Posted : Mar 30, 2005 18:20
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that is, if u want that ofcourse, i would understand it if u want people to download ur song illegaly, i wouldn't really mind either... the more people want my song, the better, how they get it is not important to me, and prolly that's the case for most producers... |
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