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TheOneWhoMakesYouCrazy
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Posted : Oct 23, 2009 21:54
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go back to your psyforum for your 'intelectual bitching'
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mk47
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Posted : Oct 23, 2009 21:55
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anyway , public masturbation 
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TheOneWhoMakesYouCrazy
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Posted : Oct 23, 2009 22:01
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TranceVisuals
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Posted : Oct 23, 2009 22:49
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this thread is going to be locked if moderators allow trancevisuals to troll
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TranceVisuals
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Posted : Oct 23, 2009 22:57
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and miss all of Moki's made up facts and opinions...
Oh what would we do.....
Think of the children. lol
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Oct 23, 2009 23:20
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Here is another question dealing with the topic of public sex allowance that deserves to be asked.
As we all know, there are certainly some bizarre deviant sexual practices out there. If sex is to be condoned in public, where does one draw the line between what is okay and what isn't? Technically, if this were to be granted to the public, then everyone should be allowed the same rights, right? Who would enforce something like that? Here are a few quick examples of what I mean:
1.) Scatology. Public health/safety/cleanliness issue? Would peeing on someone's face or taking a dump on them be accepted? (This is the whole "human waste issue" taken a step further. It's bad enough that people and their pets leave their urine and feces behind in public places, to add other fluids, condoms etc. to the mix, and on top of that the occasional freak who gets off on smearing shit on himself, using it for sex, and leaving THAT behind too. But under the proposed system, he's within his rights, isn't he? Or is that regulated, and who gets to do it?)
2.) BDSM. How would a random passer by be able to distinguish between a consensual session and an actual rape? What if the passer by attempts to intervene? Can he be punished for infringing on someone else's rights? What if he doesn't intervene, and it was an actual rape? Could the passer by be held liable for not having done anything? Or would he be socially justified because he assumed it was a consensual sexual practice? What about torture? What if you are into bondage, engaging in BDSM with your other in the park, and they decide to leave you tied up like that because it gets him/her off? Is he within his rights because he is freely expressing his sexuality? Would you advocate a law that says "no he can't do that"? How would you be protected from such a situation?
3.) Fetishism. There's probably a fetish out there for just about anything anyone can imagine, ranging from the harmless to the dangerous and deadly. For example, exhibitionism (an often misused term in this thread), which involves luring unsuspecting people into witnessing your act. Catheter/enema fetishes (or any kind of "prop" fetish, really), asphyxiation/hanging fetishes, urine/feces fetishes (see above) and even more strange fetishes are out there. Blood fetishes, crush fetishes (sexual arousal from crushing small animals to death), necrophilia, sexual slavery and simulated rape (VERY confusing to a random passer by), ACTUAL rape, and more. Which ones are "okay" and which are "not"? Who gets to decide and enforce? What about the rights of others? Whose holds greater legitimacy? The "gray area" widens dramatically at this point. Take this a step further to issues such as bestiality and it becomes a very messy can of worms.
4.) Role-playing. Is it okay to impersonate police officers and have sex in public? What about "baby" fetishes? Simulated rape (see above)? Again, a very diverse field with HUGELY subjective gray areas. Would it be okay to role-play a US soldier having sex with a Muslim woman in public? If someone witnessed something like this and was offended, whose opinion holds legitimacy?
This may sound silly and ridiculous to some, but they are very real consequences of what could come up in a society where sex was allowed in public. It seems like the issue grows REALLY complicated, REALLY fast, and creates an issue where there are all sorts of loopholes that can be exploited in one way or another. Who gets to sort all this mess out? Beyond the whole "Where in public is okay to fuck and where isn't" there's the whole "Who gets the rights and who doesn't?" Allowing something like that in public could create an even larger bureaucratic entanglement. How do you all "anarchist" and "non-governmental-interference" types feel about that?
Seems like it's a lot easier and more fair to everyone to stick with the "Do it in your home or a private area set aside for such things where the general public won't be disturbed by your actions" attitude most Western societies currently endorse.
Seriously, I wonder if some of you people think this through and bother to look at the other side of the coin. No offense intended.
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Oct 23, 2009 23:43
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yes and this all is only a small range.
I think each one is allowed to do what he/she likes as long as correctness is sure to our fellow men.
Treat others as you wish to be treated yourself.Or count with the consequences.
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Oct 23, 2009 23:46
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I just don't understand how in a world where so many basic human rights of mere survival (access to food, water, shelter, clothing, health, education, and more) are dysfunctional, hindered, infringed upon, or even outright exploited, people can be more or less blithely passive towards, and focus instead on greater allowance of what is essentially a form of RECREATION which is already allowed within the privacy of your own space. In the face of so many greater human problems which ALREADY EXIST, how can anyone in their right mind not view this sex issue as anything other than a complete waste of time and energy?
Sure, we all have times where we fantasize about "Wouldn't it be cool if the world would just be the way we wanted it?" but wouldn't it be better to get off of our spoiled asses and focus on the REAL issues which would TRULY bring benefit to people and give them REAL rights?
Some people should just get off their high and mighty horses of "enlightenment", take a good, hard look at the world around them, and sit back and count their lucky stars (and thank the societies that built up to and currently support their spoiled lifestyles) that they are in a position and have time to fantasize about decadent sexual idealistic dream worlds when MILLIONS are too busy scratching at the earth just for a couple of grains of rice and sips of brackish, muddy water for themselves and their families. |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Oct 24, 2009 00:11
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yess I agree with your points.Or I dig what you mean.
Im pretty oldskool fashioned have not a real fetish though I dont think Im boring or so hehe but I know the most of such peope can nothing for it,its like by nature or it is hard to describe at least for me.
Some of this is incredible.
I heard the incrediblest stories people that adore cars,think of them like of a partner ,even having sex with a truck spending each possible minute even on weekend(besides working as a truck driver with his darling),this I found really bizarre.Or old guys that live like babies you for sure heard about that fetish.And lots of more also some bizarre and what not.Lots of disgusting stuff too.
I believe it can be psychologicaly explained based on the collective consciousness or the history.But maybe even not.
I dont know if its ok to call them sick.
It is sad that the most are living their egoistic lives without any honest intentions to make something usefull for the poor for instance,but I found out that the most are like hooked in their fetishes.
I was always very interested in psychology.Long before psytrance.
Its good when they make their thaoughts and realize it themselves and seek help - I mean in some cases it is necesseary.
Then there are for sure people who live totaly different and are nevertheless great souls.Sometimes better than the so called avarage.
These are only my thaoughts .
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Oct 24, 2009 00:13
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On 2009-10-23 23:46, Axis Mundi wrote:
Some people should just get off their high and mighty horses of "enlightenment", take a good, hard look at the world around them, and sit back and count their lucky stars (and thank the societies that built up to and currently support their spoiled lifestyles) that they are in a position and have time to fantasize about decadent sexual idealistic dream worlds when MILLIONS are too busy scratching at the earth just for a couple of grains of rice and sips of brackish, muddy water for themselves and their families.
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and people that rape and so .. are really sick.Like walking bombs,they should get as fast as possible serious medical and psychological help.And when they have commited a rape they should never get out of a mental hospital (atleast).
I feel wrath and much more about this ,here in germany its already common in the media.
All these psychopaths canibals child abuser and such should be locked to death.
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Posted : Oct 24, 2009 00:23
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Basically because you know that there are tons of power within it, our survival depends on it, as I said before its not casual that people like Orwell and Huxley used it as the biggest way to rebellion in their dystopias. Sex and love are our must basic instincts and are the must repressed.
Last year I went to group therapy, out of 7 people I was the only one with a healthy and happy sex life, pure pleasure, pleasure from enjoying your self (not from what you buy or your banking account says) is very hard punished in western societies. Sex its attached to so many other religious and economic forces that it has lost its magic.
People with a happy and healthy sex life is less stressed and has less need to cover their happiness by other means like power, money, consumption, eating or TV. People could have a better human to human contact and relations.
The point axis has expressed is a very good one, I would think a lot about it.
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TimeTraveller
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On 2009-10-24 00:23, Login wrote:
People with a happy and healthy sex life is less stressed and has less need to cover their happiness by other means like power, money, consumption, eating or TV. People could have a better human to human contact and relations.
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Great said..
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moki
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Posted : Oct 24, 2009 01:04
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@trance visual: ahm, honestly i dont know what you are talking about but i will also appreciate it if you stop trolling in this thread please. i dont know what psyforum are you talking about, i have never written anything there and honestly i think you are talking about someone else with whom you had a conversation. i am not even registered there. yes, i was trying to be polite here and i was expaining to you patiently sth about the traffic and the hostings. as a matter of fact my logic has always been a bit too chllenged wth your behaviour because you started to offend me quite radically and personally the first time i saw you here in isratrance. in my eyes without reason. but may be you are just one of those empty minds who do it because they read others do it. too strange. just leave me alone pls and lots of ppl would be thankful too. i guess it would be hard to get me out of here in this thread just because i started it. i guess it is justice to leave me at least in my own threads.
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Freeflow
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Posted : Oct 24, 2009 01:07
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the question is, what is birth of certain degrading deeds?
"People with a happy and healthy sex life"
also this needs to be expanded, what really is a happy and healthy sex life?
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