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TranceVisuals
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On 2009-10-08 10:18, Remy [POF] wrote:
big point, i would say please don't bring your kids to festivals...
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As someone who is a full-time father of a 1yr old boy, and full-time psychedelic animator/VJ I find what you say laughable.
I will conceed there are "festivals" and "munt-fests" and I wouldn't take my family to the latter, but to be honest the problem isn't the children. It is the adults who behave like infantiles, and do stupid things to put other people into danger that are the problem. Stupid fuck ups, who think that being on drugs, is an excuse, or an escape from responsbility, to behave in ways that are frankly well "uncivilised". Being a libertarian-anarcho-communist, I generally go along with the principle of if its consenting and doesn't cause (permanent) harm then do what you like, but ultimately the trade-off is your are responsible for all your actions.
As someone who also has been active in the scene for fifteen years, I have seen friends go with babies to grown children, and so long as the parents are fairly "intelligent", I have mostly seen a positive impact on the children, especially in their social skills. Indeed children brought up around "adult civilised 'rug users" have turned out, in many cases, more healthy productive individuals of society than their parents.
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supergroover
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Posted : Oct 8, 2009 11:13
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What's so wrong with people having sex in public? Would you do the same if cows were having sex in a field? What is so offensive about people having sex?
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Remy [POF]
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Posted : Oct 8, 2009 11:18
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On 2009-10-08 11:00, TranceVisuals wrote:
As someone who is a full-time father of a 1yr old boy, and full-time psychedelic animator/VJ I find what you say laughable.
I will conceed there are "festivals" and "munt-fests" and I wouldn't take my family to the latter, but to be honest the problem isn't the children. It is the adults who behave like infantiles, and do stupid things to put other people into danger that are the problem. Stupid fuck ups, who think that being on drugs, is an excuse, or an escape from responsbility, to behave in ways that are frankly well "uncivilised". Being a libertarian-anarcho-communist, I generally go along with the principle of if its consenting and doesn't cause (permanent) harm then do what you like, but ultimately the trade-off is your are responsible for all your actions.
As someone who also has been active in the scene for fifteen years, I have seen friends go with babies to grown children, and so long as the parents are fairly "intelligent", I have mostly seen a positive impact on the children, especially in their social skills. Indeed children brought up around "adult civilised 'rug users" have turned out, in many cases, more healthy productive individuals of society than their parents.
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their are exceptions, but sorry in 99% of cases the parents that bring their kids in festivals just leave them while they get high.
Just to give an example I have seen a group of 9 to 13 year old kids in a festival playing knights and using pieces of wood that had rusty nails on them that they used as swords to hit each other... And where are the parents?? Or another example i saw a kid maybe 10 years old climbing on a big metallic structure that was 5 meters high without anyone watching him... wtf... the list can go on...
Also a lot of fucking morons bring even their babies in front of the sound system without any type of protection for their ears...
Sorry but i have seen enough shit with children in festivals to allow myself to say don't bring kids to festivals, and if you think it's laughable well you have the right to...
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demoniac
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Posted : Oct 8, 2009 11:36
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On 2009-10-08 11:13, supergroover wrote:
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What's so wrong with people having sex in public? Would you do the same if cows were having sex in a field? What is so offensive about people having sex?
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we are not cows or any other animals, we are here to do something more then those cows,something more inteligent, and something diffrent then the animal instinct.
I wan't to have a spiritual expirience on the floor and the energy should not be distracted by sex, sex is an animal instinct, not a spiritual expirience, it distracts our senses when we wan't to go beyond our mind.
This guys wan't to create chaos, not anarchy.
Anarchy is a society without goverment, and total freedom for the people in that society.
But this plan never worked because people always wanted to create chaos around them, after they achieved some kind of freedom and anarchy...
We are one of the little species that is having sex, not only for making kids,but also for pleasurment, this is a gift from god, you are ruing this by creating a chaos, you loose the cause of the freedom, and you get atachments to sex, so maybe you are free on going naked, but you are nimphomanic, and that is not freedom. you are ruled by your own animal instinct, that should change a thousands years ago no?
The freedom is inside your mind, in your inner cosmos, not inside your body, your body distracts you from your freedom.
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TranceVisuals
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Posted : Oct 8, 2009 11:49
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@ Remy
That is a fair response to your experience, thankfully mine has been the reverse.
Might I suggest that you are "hanging out with the wrong crowd", or "going to the wrong parties/festivals".
This is something that has been an issue in the past, and whilst I don't know where you are based, the long history of the scene and festivals in the UK, means that in some cases we are talking about grandchildren not children. Perhaps having gone through that over the decades "we" have developed a more inclusive response, infact families are generally enouraged at festivals for the joyous atomsphere they bring. Plus parents tend to be "bigger spenders" making everyone happy. lol Kids want even more glowy shiny crap than a munted ecstasy head. lol |
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mk47
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Posted : Oct 8, 2009 11:56
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a truely idealistic goal can make even the most dirty means of achieving it look noble.
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al qaeda , taliban style ?
ah , just read on the site the site that the wwf and others have refused to accept donations from this lot , good
and wtf is this about people not being free and uptight about matters of sex , rubbish ,.. how many of you want to live in a world where suppose , some dude gets a boner on a train coz he saw someone flashing her undies , and decides to take a wank right there 
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Dogon
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Posted : Oct 8, 2009 12:02
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moki
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Posted : Oct 8, 2009 12:13
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just a short note aside:
i am really suprised about the statistics of watching the video. wow. how many unique users has isratrance?? it is kind of really exploding.
i split the video into three smaller parts to reduce the traffic a bit. the last part i will leave for logins only. building the logins for public use right now.
IMPORTANT: actually i am really not into this sort of thing if comes to trance, but everyone can feel very welcome to place a banner in the header of timewavezero.tv. if you want. just contact me if you want this form of publicity among people interested in psychedelic culture and left alternative scene. just to cover the traffic, nothing more. and you can place a video ad inbetween the video parts as well.
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JohnTaramas
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Posted : Oct 8, 2009 12:15
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Too much theory and it's just to support their sexual beliefs . For me also sex is something private and this is because is a reproduction ritual of humans (animals that suppose to have a more complex brain than the others) in its basic meaning. As these days we do it mostly for satisfaction, nobody is denied to share it with more than one person or to explore sex in general. what i find wrong in all this is that these people try to "cover" their need to expose their sexuality in common view, with an ecologicaly based theory. Come on guys, fuck all you want and leave them theories, your not gonna save the world by fucking on acid..
a lot of people try to do that but with more dangerous and affective ways not with just a fuck.
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mk47
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Posted : Oct 8, 2009 13:08
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IMPORTANT: actually i am really not into this sort of thing if comes to trance, but everyone can feel very welcome to place a banner in the header of timewavezero.tv. if you want. just contact me if you want this form of publicity among people interested in psychedelic culture and left alternative scene. just to cover the traffic, nothing more. and you can place a video ad inbetween the video parts as well.
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not her first attempt at trying to make a buck selling some cheap service nobody needs / wants on these blue pages
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mk47
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Posted : Oct 8, 2009 13:09
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the cosmos speaks thru us all 
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mk47
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Posted : Oct 8, 2009 13:13
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fuck for cash 
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Dogon
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Posted : Oct 8, 2009 13:16
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be a pornstar in just 1 day!
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mk47
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Posted : Oct 8, 2009 13:18
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i want megan fox porn 
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Dogon
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Posted : Oct 8, 2009 13:23
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out of curiosity, i would want to ask moki if she did some fucking for this cause & has any videos?
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