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moki
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 21:30
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the word we use in english was FIRST mentioned in english in the eight century (synn), but also norway and some other places. in germany, sünde, was used first AFTER christianity came.
the etymology itself is logically derived from latin as being an older language.
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And now you just contradicted yourself. You also contradicted yourself here:
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that it actually means to miss the target. (of god or of dharma or of tao, or whatever you call the principle of the universe). it doesnt mean not to follow the rules of other humans.
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whereas western christianity diverted this into :
sinn= not to follow the rules of other humans
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how i love people who are just losing my time in the forums with correcting insignificant contradictions. this is irony, i dont love this, this is what i find truely fucking boring. i dont see contradictions in the four quotes above. not even slightly.
and i dont need to comment your releases cause i am not even slightly interested in them.
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moki
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 21:58
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I find it offensive for people to have sex in inappropriate places.
GET A ROOM
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If FFF were really trying to make a statement, then why wear clothes at all..why aren't they walking about stark naked, at the airport, in restaurants, fucking all over the place, on the busy berlin roads etc. Why cover your body, especially your genitalia, and then conveniently decide to fuck in open, but only in places where it "might" be tolerated, such as a trance party. Seems a bit superficial, so don't rock my boat with this open your mind, be tolerant crap.
And once again, I have no issues with FFF, fucking like bunnies in a designated area.
Yes I am conservative, I grew up in a culture that while not necessarily sexually repressed, does advocate some ammount of decency and respect for others...no one says don't have sex...just be repctfull in your approach towards it. Now if you think that's a load of crap, fair enough, but that ain't repression, that's just respect for the other people who might have to deal with the spectacle.
Osho doesn't impress me either.
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hey fria, but you did not grow up in a society that carved this on the temples, did you:)?
http://img2.travelblog.org/Photos/4820/18533/f/84614-Erotic-statues--Khajuraho-0.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.gadling.com/media/2008/02/khajuraho_5_1203486611.jpg
( khajuraho is the search word for those who wanna see more of this decent attitude)
http://fotowettbewerb.hispeed.ch/original/67056/tantrische_skulptur___khajuraho__indien_/skulptur_sex_india_khajuraho_tantrizmus.jpg
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TranceVisuals
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 22:08
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Ohhhh Khajuraho, me and the missus have been there and got real high with the locals. Kind of strange sitting in the backyards on ancient carved stone blocks, smoking chillums, listening to how the village was still segregated along the caste lines.
Both me and the young saddhu who we got to know, agreed that it did more harm than good (the caste system), but the way of things takes time to change like the seasons it seems.
It was also interesting finding out that the culture that built the temples were an entirely peaceful "tribe/kingdom/culture", and although they happily depicted sex and all manner of types of sex, it was more an artistic thing, than a FFF.
Maybe I should start a "fling faeces at djs for world peace movement"  |
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AumShantiAum
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 22:28
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fckin hell this thread is growing fast, now i have to backtrack and read and see if its a candidate for "most entertaining isratrance threads"
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 22:49
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how i love people who are just losing my time in the forums with correcting insignificant contradictions. this is irony, i dont love this, this is what i find truely fucking boring. i dont see contradictions in the four quotes above. not even slightly.
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Here's today's english lesson.
Taken from: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irony
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Main Entry: iro·ny
Pronunciation: ˈī-rə-nē also ˈī(-ə)r-nē
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural iro·nies
Etymology: Latin ironia, from Greek eirōnia, from eirōn dissembler
Date: 1502
1 : a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by adroit questioning —called also Socratic irony
2 a : the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning b : a usually humorous or sardonic literary style or form characterized by irony c : an ironic expression or utterance
3 a (1) : incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result (2) : an event or result marked by such incongruity b : incongruity between a situation developed in a drama and the accompanying words or actions that is understood by the audience but not by the characters in the play —called also dramatic irony, tragic irony |
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So technically, irony is that you keep commenting on a discussion which you say you find truly boring, and of your own free will are bringing up topics which you say you find completely uninteresting.
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Freeflow
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 23:01
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Shouldn't we all just fuck?
Common lets have one big orgy and kiss and make up i bet there is a lot of sexual frustration behind all these bad mouthing and bitching....
cum with me to freedom!
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moki
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 23:19
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yeah but it will be our last party . after that we will all die out of aids.
but i will put the idea into my calender for 22.12.2012:))). it doesnt look like i will go to another one before this:).
anyway. get a decent room now. 
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Freeflow
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 23:43
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On 2009-10-14 23:19, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
yeah but it will be our last party . after that we will all die out of aids.
but i will put the idea into my calender for 22.12.2012:))). it doesnt look like i will go to another one before this:).
anyway. get a decent room now.
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haha
what about protection...
i think like someone already say, the problem is not that we fuck to little but we do it too much...and some people with too many without protection.. i dont think they are happy in the end,. if they get a lot of STD and maybe even HIV..
So maybe fucking isnt solving the problem, but a god damn revolution against this consumption and west world taking over the world society!
the religious fanatics and all the rich fucks who think they can rule over all humans! its bizarre and we just watch! wtf?
wtf wtf wtf? lying politicians, priest and whatnot in the big eyes of the media!!
Common people! should we just let our selfs get fooled! dont you think there is a better way of life, should they rule the world with their guns and stupid fucking plans for our earth and nature?
well i guess we should.. yeah, lets just watch the show! it might be a fun ending! i dunno! hehe
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Fria Tantrumm
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Posted : Oct 15, 2009 00:18
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yes Moki, I grew up in the society that created the beautifull Khajurao, but once again you misrepresewnt the intention of the eroticism displayed. No where does it suggest acceptance of public copulation.
The Khajuraho temples do not contain sexual or erotic art inside the temple or near the deity. They portray that, for seeing the deity, one must leave his or her sexual desires outside the temple. They also show that divinity, such as the deities of the temples, is pure like the atman, which is not affected by sexual desires and other characteristics of the physical body.
That is why the sexual nature of the scuplture on the outside. It basically depicts the rite of passage one must go through in order to attain Nirvana. Leave the materialoutside so as to experience inner bliss.
@ Axis Mundi...check your PM.
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Posted : Oct 15, 2009 02:29
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Fria you are a conservative, period
"The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures." |
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Fria Tantrumm
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Posted : Oct 15, 2009 02:59
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On 2009-10-15 02:29, Login wrote:
Fria you are a conservative, period
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Yup, I'm a left wing, liberal conservative
And fucking publicly for the forest or whatever just seems completely ridiculus from all angles.
Oh they want to save the forest by being natural and displaying a natural instinct such as sex, but using birth control at the same time...not very natural..yes they want to save the forest with Money, the very thing that destroys the forest....yes and they want to save the forest with no sacrifice involved...almost an insult to those who give up home, comfort and family for such causes.
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AumShantiAum
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Posted : Oct 15, 2009 03:13
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personally, if I ever saw some people just fucking in public id be pretty disgusted. the fact that these people do it at psytrance festivals, where many people are on psychoactive substances and are in very sensitive states of mind is even more fucked up. it seems more like a sick twisted way to trip people out. Also I don't see their efforts at saving the forest actually having much effect. So these people get the money from their porn and buy large plots of forest, correct? Ok how is that really saving the forest? If someone just simply owns the land what good does it really do? Will it stop illegal poaching and de-forestation? What about the local people who live in the area of the purchased land, they have to still survive for themselves. Many times the poor locals of the rainforest are forced to chop down trees and farm the land just to survive. In the end I just don't see how someone can buy land from thousands of miles away and then expect that land to be protected.
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moki
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Posted : Oct 15, 2009 03:15
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think like someone already say, the problem is not that we fuck to little but we do it too much... |
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i think, the problem is that we just dont fuck right:)))....and it is quite a bigger problem than aids because we miss the target of life .
here is a further reading on the subject of tantra by osho:
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The second thing to remember, that Tantra is a great yea-sayer; it says yes to everything. It has nothing like "no" in its vocabulary, there is no negation. It never says no to anything, because with no the fight starts, with no you become the ego. The moment you say no to anything, you have become the ego already; a conflict has come in, now you are at war.
Tantra loves, and loves unconditionally. It never says no to anything whatsoever, because everything is part of the whole, and everything has its own place in the whole, and the whole cannot exist without anything missing from it.
It is said that even if a drop of water is missing, the whole existence will thirst. You pluck a flower in the garden, and you have plucked something out of the whole existence. You harm a flower, and you have harmed millions of stars -- because everything is interrelated. The whole exists as a whole, as an organic whole. The whole exists not as a mechanical thing -- everything is related to everything else. |
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this quote is an unenlightened comment to the outrageous NO in the thread hehe.
http://www.newfrontier.com/nepal/osho-tantra.htm
and as far as the discrimination towards fff is concerned:
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TranceVisuals
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Posted : Oct 15, 2009 07:41
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Osho, wasn't he the one who sent Krishnamurti the "fuck you" rolls royce picture.
Oh yeah and there was all the bother over illegal tax evasion, and sexual misconduct with his disciples, and those people who were murdered....
Yeah, he seems like a "great" person to listen to. imho. |
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Aluxe
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Posted : Oct 15, 2009 09:11
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On 2009-10-14 17:17, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
btw why walk naked in the airport- you will be arrested if you do this ( it is illegal) and will pay money for having done it. it is like to go and smoke a joint in front of the scanner guard at the airport.....there are certainly more wise methods to show a vision...
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Exactly, great way to put it! |
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