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Pavel
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 09:16
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Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity
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moki
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 09:18
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| no no no no no no no no no no no no!!!
You can't take words and wikipedia terms and just jumble them up and twist them into whatever meaning you want.
The original etymology of "sin" is Germanic and meant "to be", as in, "to exist", conjugated into words like "is" with variations of the original spelling depending on the language (such as "synn" in Old English, "zijn" in Dutch, "sein" in German, "synd" in Norse), and sometimes in the possessive form meaning his/her/its (own) in Danish and was in almost all cases pronounced with a long "I" sound such as the sound of "eye". |
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hahaha axis mundi, so now i am supposed to stop writing in my own topic because of your impertinent 8 times of no?
i dont twist meanings, dont worry. and the difference between me and you is that i knew what i say even before i googled in the internet to put superior knowledge in a forum.
i find your way to write so fucking boring , you cant even imagine. whats the point to google and then paste this as an authority here in the forum hahahah.
whatever, i am slowly really really losing any patience to even answer the 8 no's.
btw latin has an original too. you are not ready with the googling, so go on instead of pasting me wikipedia. btw here a start:
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| Latin, also has an old present participle of esse in the word sons, sont-, which came to mean "guilty" in Latin. The root meaning would appear to be, "it is true;" that is, "the charge has been proven." The Greek word hamartia (ἁμαρτία) is often translated as sin in the New Testament; it means "to miss the mark" or "to miss the target". |
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as you see, to miss the target. as trance visuals said - the god was left because the greek had another view of the cosmic plan.
i wonder if you are specialized in putting ppl in a bad mood. but dont answer me, i know you do. you are the sort of ppl who come to your home and already in the first second they behave like they own your home. same in my topic. like you dont even have the slightest respect towards the one who opened it. open another one and write there finally, what about it.
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TranceVisuals
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 09:25
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On 2009-10-14 09:16, Pavel wrote:
Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity
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I thought that a good quote, until someone pointed out to me....
"And where do virgins come from?" |
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exotic
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 09:35
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There is nothing more to be said other than the fact that if these people feel that its a cause worth fucking for and if they are raising money, whether or not its actually used to save the environment or buy forest land is a separate issue, then i think its fine and i dont see why anyone should have a problem? porn for a cause, people! can it acquire more meaning than this, actually ?
Social mores and moral debates aside, every individual or a group of people are entitled to their own beliefs and its sad that everything should be passed by a majority , whatever ideology it that they subscribe to , to give something validation . remember it takes all kinds to make this world and that's the spice of life. i like that guys reasoning in the video about a naked person fucking on the road not polluting the environment. and to raise money by bringing sex out in the open for something that everybody is concerned about these days is better than not giving a fuck.
and respect to Xolvexes for an outstanding post! there is always a point , counterpoint 
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moki
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 09:38
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On 2009-10-14 01:51, Login wrote:
God plays with dices, there is no plan
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agree- he plays dices. it is his/her/its plan to play dices.
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TranceVisuals
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 10:29
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Actually he prefers games of strategy, as he cheats at games of chance due to his inherent nature, but coming up against a collection of free wills....
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phazed
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 11:07
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I think they need to change the name fukforforest.
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 11:32
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On 2009-10-14 09:18, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
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| no no no no no no no no no no no no!!!
You can't take words and wikipedia terms and just jumble them up and twist them into whatever meaning you want.
The original etymology of "sin" is Germanic and meant "to be", as in, "to exist", conjugated into words like "is" with variations of the original spelling depending on the language (such as "synn" in Old English, "zijn" in Dutch, "sein" in German, "synd" in Norse), and sometimes in the possessive form meaning his/her/its (own) in Danish and was in almost all cases pronounced with a long "I" sound such as the sound of "eye". |
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hahaha axis mundi, so now i am supposed to stop writing in my own topic because of your impertinent 8 times of no?
i dont twist meanings, dont worry. and the difference between me and you is that i knew what i say even before i googled in the internet to put superior knowledge in a forum.
i find your way to write so fucking boring , you cant even imagine. whats the point to google and then paste this as an authority here in the forum hahahah.
whatever, i am slowly really really losing any patience to even answer the 8 no's.
btw latin has an original too. you are not ready with the googling, so go on instead of pasting me wikipedia. btw here a start:
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| Latin, also has an old present participle of esse in the word sons, sont-, which came to mean "guilty" in Latin. The root meaning would appear to be, "it is true;" that is, "the charge has been proven." The Greek word hamartia (ἁμαρτία) is often translated as sin in the New Testament; it means "to miss the mark" or "to miss the target". |
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as you see, to miss the target. as trance visuals said - the god was left because the greek had another view of the cosmic plan.
i wonder if you are specialized in putting ppl in a bad mood. but dont answer me, i know you do. you are the sort of ppl who come to your home and already in the first second they behave like they own your home. same in my topic. like you dont even have the slightest respect towards the one who opened it. open another one and write there finally, what about it.
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Well since I can't mail you a book on the subject, I don't have much choice but to google references, do I? Nor can I make you sit in a classroom and learn English. I'm googling the same sites you google to support your own arguments. It still doesn't change the fact that your original statement was inaccurate, as referenced by the same article I happened to reference in my google research. I bet you didn't even take a look at the article I linked, either.
Let me break up this sentence for you, since you are obviously reading it wrong.
"The Greek word hamartia is often translated as sin in the New Testament; it means "to miss the mark" or "to miss the target"."
"The Greek word hamartia means "to miss the mark" or "to miss the target"."
"It is often translated as "sin" in the New Testament."
That does not mean that "sin" means what you are saying it means before the New Testament. Every article about the origins of the word "sin" in the Germanic languages will tell you this.
BTW I do have somewhat of a clue about what I'm talking about, as I have a degree in Linguistics with a minor in English. But you don't see me trying to tell you about Slavic languages as if I knew what I was talking about (because I don't know much about those groups).
So, yes, please, stop trying to re-write definitions for words.
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moki
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 13:44
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i refuse. i write exactly what my sources of information about words claim about the word sin. so please stop following me 1. with off topic 2. with your disastrous boring corrections.
i dont know why you need to interrupt a conversation that i dont even have with you but with someone else.
i was talking to trance visuals about the greek in the context of his post.
i said that the meaning of the greek word came from " to miss the target". and this is correct according to the definitions of my sources of information.
and yes i did read your link. i believe you were the one to missunderstand the sentence about the pagans - the word came to them as they were pagans. where did the word come from. i hope you have learned at least early history of europe and you know that they were pagans in the times when the greek empire already had books and written language. but go on - teach me on the history of europe - till now you made disastrously bad impression on me with you insufficient knowledge of it.
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TranceVisuals
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 14:05
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"As long as there are Christians there are Pagans."
They kind of go hand in hand with the whole dualistic elemental aristolean logic that pervades modern (western) culture.
Pagans only "reclaimed" the word, in the wake of 60's political social awareness movements, and indeed many prefer either not to label themselves as anything, or according to the techniques and traditions they resonate with. Certainly the many hundreds that I know personally, having been involved in such things in the north UK since the mid 90's, express themselves that way.
The "common strand" amongst mystics, spiritualists, buddhists, hinayanists, mahayanists, gnostics, and most mystery schools is that "we are the universe/gOd" quite literally. Although the obvious question leads onto the nature of gOd, self, what actually is the experience, is it just a cosmic spiritual joke, a kind of mental masturbation to wear the mind out till the internal dialogue halts and perceives what Korzybski describes as the "unspeakable experience", and some buddhist commentators allude to being the "state of no-mind".......
And when that silence comes.....
what floats into this no-mind of non-self
that we all seem to be a lot more alike than we care to admit... |
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 15:19
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| On 2009-10-13 19:54, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
right. the original ethymology of sin means:
to miss the target.
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"Sin" isn't a Greek word. It's a Germanic word. It had a different meaning before New Testament translations which happened later. There have already been plenty of facts provided to support this.
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No. That's exactly what I said above. Once again, the word had a much different meaning before Christianity came to Europe. Pre-Christian society had no concept of the word "sin" as we know it today. This meaning was adopted later as a loose translation from Greek and Hebrew texts. There have also been facts supplied to support this.
TranceVisuals' explanation of "pagans" is the most accurate so far. This includes both the Germanic peoples and the Greek Empire and more.
This is a public discussion. If you want to talk to someone uninterrupted, then communicate using other means. It's easy. Until then, everyone is able to participate in the discussion if they want to. You just have to live with it.
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moki
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 15:52
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come on man, do you really need to destroy every topic that i open with your boring corrections and off topics? isratrance is ( so far) a free land where you can open your own topics and discuss them. i dont come to troll in the topics of your releases either do i?
i was talking to trance visuals about the greeks. the three sentences above are a direct answer of his post about the greeks. i was talking about the ethymology of the greek word - AND IT DOES MEAN TO MISS THE TARGET = hamartia as translated with the word sin in the new testament in english.
SECOND i told you that there is a latin word too which connects TO BE * GUILTY.
no i dont have to live with the idea that you come to troll with boring inaccurate corrections. this is a public forum and it has certain rules. show me a rule where it is written that trolling off topics are tolerated!
i dont need to tolerate your off topics and trolling behaviour in this topic. there are also others who are interested to discuss to subject of the topic. it is not only you.
btw as far as your attitude towards fff is concerned, you are a real shame for your signature. whatever. just discuss on topic and if you have anything to say - then do it the proper way with proper arguments based on the history of languages.
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Dogon
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 16:02
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Xolvexs
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 16:11
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Fuck for Forest Condoms are plenty forests are few...now pay me my US$5000
When death comes to your doorstep, make sure you are alive |
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moki
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 16:23
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and besides,
even science has not been able to give an exact root of the word sin. it has not been stated for certain where the word comes from.
a connection has been stated to indo european languages and a proto indo europena root ess - meaning TO BE. in latin you find esse etymologically in the word "to be guilty" ( at the end).
the word we use in english was FIRST mentioned in english in the eight century (synn), but also norway and some other places. in germany, sόnde, was used first AFTER christianity came.
the etymology itself is logically derived from latin as being an older language.
and whatever it is, i am so tired from all these stupid corrections. even the scientists have no ONE SIMPLE answer about it, only the visitors of the forums have so certain ideas of what is what. stop correcting me with such unserious stupid arguments.
besides. this was a philosophical debate about the meaning of sin.
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Sin
that it actually means to miss the target. (of god or of dharma or of tao, or whatever you call the principle of the universe). it doesnt mean not to follow the rules of other humans.
so if you do anything with a purpose to save a dying forest, then you have less sin than if you just fuck in a room , just like that for your own human pleasures
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