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UnderTow


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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 14:34
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On 2006-04-17 10:18, 5Meo-Geo wrote:
aaaaaaaahhhh!!!!!!!!!!1
forget it dude!!!!
u won!!!!
u have bigger balls!!!!!
digital sounds better than analog
and Virus is ultimate-best-sounding synth ull ever use for make "VIRTUAL-ANALOG" psytrance!!!!
VIVA LA DIGITAL SOUND QUALITY!!!!!



For your information, that arp sound is actually a VST. (A very nice one though). On the other hand, the acidish type lead that comes at the end is analogue with analogue distortion.

Moral of the story? People really can't tell any more. The plasticy sound of modern psytrance has much more to do with the way the music is produced than the actual tools.

UnderTow
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 15:54
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On 2006-04-17 12:52, 5Meo-Geo wrote:
some pro guitarists can hear difference between tube distortion and transistor distortions
now this is realy way smaller difference in sound than difference between digi and analog
but it is placebo ...as some here said before... so screw them pro guitarists
pothead psytrance artists must know better than them



ahaHAHAHAHA you're getting funnier and funnier - just like you were last time you were on Isra, as 'Setfan'. Tube and solid-state distortion have totally different characters and it's a poor guitarist or producer who can't tell the difference between them.

And they're both analog.

5Meo-Geo/Setfan/whoever... either please be quiet, open your ears/eyes and learn something, or at the very least, restrict your comments to this thread so the rest of us can talk about music production in peace.

Yes, I am in a bad mood today. Sue me.
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5Meo-Geo
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 16:09
colin i am learning and i will continue to learn but defenetly not from ppl like you

and for the mood....clean the sand from ur vag*na...
it might help           Jesus didnt dance,but his beat goes on
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PSYCHEDELIC-ZION
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 16:13
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TopDown

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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 16:33
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On 2006-04-17 12:12, Pavel wrote:
Very wise. So people will enjoy more analog generated music (made by professionals). Wow, so the water is really wet there isn't it?




If the question is whether it is dry or wet - yes it is wet !
Let me rephrase it : they'll enjoy analog made sound by top notch producers more than digital by other top notch producers.

After surfing this thread all over I get to the conclussion analog made music will just not fit trance. Will be too natural and smooth (good ?) or something...

Anyways, found on the net something about digital sine and have a question ...
U measure a wave, find its min and max, compute the lenght (distance) and LP(+HP?) to that freq (derrived from the lenght)...
Did I got it right ? Is this more or less the way it works ?
5Meo-Geo
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 17:10
and wtf is Setfan ???

also did u ever played psytrance to any good studio sound engeniers ???
i did...
they all laugh and mostly only about sound
think about it for a few sec...
why do they laugh on psytrance sound???
coze even cheap pop artists gets more deccent sound than that maybe???          Jesus didnt dance,but his beat goes on
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e-motion
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 17:21
5meo geo mind that you're talking to 2 sound engineers

pop music is mastered by the world's best equipment and enginners (cause pop is where the money is), so normally they have a better sound. but saying psytrance "laughing" is pure shit since the best psy productors are also among the best of all styles.
e-motion
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 17:28
it's not productors but producers... why do i keep telling this mistake? err...
UnderTow


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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 17:45
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On 2006-04-17 17:10, 5Meo-Geo wrote:
and wtf is Setfan ???

also did u ever played psytrance to any good studio sound engeniers ???
i did...
they all laugh and mostly only about sound
think about it for a few sec...
why do they laugh on psytrance sound???
coze even cheap pop artists gets more deccent sound than that maybe???



What did you play them? Your own stuff?

There is such a vaste scale of quality in Psytrance that your comment doesn't mean anything unless you give the artist and track names.

UnderTow

PS: I've impressed some reputable mix engineers by playing them Sub6 and Infected Mushroom. The only comments where about the compression but that is the same (and often worse) in pop music.
PPS: And don't play them MP3s.
5Meo-Geo
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 17:56
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but saying psytrance "laughing" is pure shit since the best psy producers are also among the best of all styles.



man place 80% of all our Psytrance Produsers on mixing boards infront of real mics and real musicians and watch what comes out of it

and undertow ive played them ORIGINAL and whats value as "high class" of psytrance production...(not IM or TIP but fancy enough)           Jesus didnt dance,but his beat goes on
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UnderTow


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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 18:04
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On 2006-04-17 17:56, 5Meo-Geo wrote:

man place 80% of all our Psytrance Produsers on mixing boards infront of real mics and real musicians and watch what comes out of it



Put 99% of recording engineers in front of Sonar/Cubase/Logic and they couldn't make psytrance to save their life. What is your point?

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and undertow ive played them ORIGINAL and whats value as "high class" of psytrance production...(not IM or TIP but fancy enough)




Give us names! You keep saying stuff and when when questioned about it you hide from giving answers.

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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 18:08
Maybe he played them the VoC album? Seriously, we want artist and track names Geo... pix or stfu.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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UnderTow


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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 18:17
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On 2006-04-17 18:08, Colin OOOD wrote:
Maybe he played them the VoC album?



Lol. Maybe he played them some of my stuff. He doesn't know my artist name so he wouldn't know.

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Trip-
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 18:22
aren't we miles off topic ... another milimeter off and I guess this topic will rest.           Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
AgalactiA
Fingax
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 18:27
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On 2006-04-17 16:33, TopDown wrote:

After surfing this thread all over I get to the conclussion analog made music will just not fit trance. Will be too natural and smooth (good ?) or something...




i totally disagree with that.
Thers lots of top notch music dancefloor smashers made with lots of hardware synths and/or effects processors. the combination of analogue and digital just give it more possibilities. you want names? check Twisted records just 4 example. there are loads more. just because one or another top producer only uses digital dosent meen everyone should.
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