psychedel
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Posted : Jun 15, 2003 13:36
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Greetings...!!!!
Iam thinkg of purshasing a mixer. The question is should it be analog or digital?
Ive ask around and people say that analog mixer can do so you get som noise frequens in your music, and you cant save the present like a digital for future editing..
I would like to know artist around that uses analog mixer so i can listen to their song and se if that infects alot in the music, i know that it isnt just the mixer who will make your song this or that.
would like poeple who have experince with mixer telling me what defines good analog & digital mixer and mention mixer that are good both analog and digital..
I will have 3 synth so no major mixer table
Thanks!!
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psychedel
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Posted : Jun 17, 2003 02:50
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On 2003-06-16 15:50, nectarios wrote:
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On 2003-06-15 13:36, psychedel wrote:
Greetings...!!!!
Iam thinkg of purshasing a mixer. The question is should it be analog or digital?
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It all depends on whether you want to work on multiple projects, or do one tune at a time.
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Ive ask around and people say that analog mixer can do so you get som noise frequens in your music, and you cant save the present like a digital for future editing..
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If I understood you correctly, you mean that analog mixers add some noise in the recording... Analog mixers will inevitably add some noise in your recordings since all analog devices add some noise to signals that run through them. The question is whether that noise is enough to be audible or not. You will hear that noise if you run "weak" signals through your channels and use a cheap desk with crap pre-maps to compensate.
Bare in mind that digital desks use (in principle) the same pre-amps as analog desks...so a digital desk with poor pre-amps will also add noise to your recordings, the same way an analog desk would. If the digital desk uses crap ADCs and DACs, even more noise will be added to the signal.
Quiet/good pre-amplifiers are expensive. Stacking 8/16/24/32/48...or more is one of the main reasons analog desks with decent pre-amps are so expensive.
BUT...correct gain structure and running "healthy" (no noise/distortion), "hot" (loud) signals through your desk that do not need gain compensation, will provide a reasonably noiseless mix.
...No you can't save the mix settings on an analog desk...not one that you can afford, but you can note the settings, or take a picture of the desk with a (digital) camera... pain in the ass either way...
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I would like to know artist around that uses analog mixer so i can listen to their song and se if that infects alot in the music, i know that it isnt just the mixer who will make your song this or that.
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Digital: Son Kite, Ticon, Synthetic/Dado/Deedrah, Prometheus.
Analog: Surge/Antidote, Tristan, Hallucinogen, Younger Brother, Shpongle, Shakta/Digitalis, MWNN, Man Made Man.
...but you already know it is not the mixer that makes the track sound the way it does.
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would like poeple who have experince with mixer telling me what defines good analog & digital mixer and mention mixer that are good both analog and digital..
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A good analog mixer is mainly defined by its pre-amps, EQ section, quality of components used in its signal path and how flexible it is (Auxes, Busses, routing options, number of inputs..etc). Good analog mixers are Mackies (especially 8 buss), Allen & Heath, TLAudio, Soundcraft/Spirit.
A good digital mixer is defined by the same things as the analog mixers, and its interface (very important).
Good digital mixers are Yamaha, Mackie, Sony, Tascam, Soundcraft, Digidesign (if you are using Pro-Tools).
Digital desk's strongpoints are their features and their size (small). You can also use a digital desk's EQ/compressors/internal FX to save up on CPU.
Analog desk's strongpoint is their sound (pre-amps, EQ) and the fact that you do not need to go through menus to do stuff/learn interfaces...once you learn how to use an analog desk, you've learned how to use them all.
Ideally both mixer's operating levels should be at +4dBu (Pro), instead of -10dBu (domestic, semi-Pro)
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I will have 3 synth so no major mixer table
Thanks!!
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If each of your synths has 8 outs you'll need 24 inputs on your desk only to accomodate your synths...
Peace out.
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Nectarios thank you for you long post..
you have made everything easier regards my question.. i know what to look in specific and so on..
thank you..  *thumbs up*
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