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Anakoluth/Anix Gleo style Basslines
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willsanquil
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Posted : Jul 26, 2011 18:39:07
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kabbalisticvillage
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Posted : Jul 26, 2011 19:07
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kabbalisticvillage
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Posted : Jul 26, 2011 19:10
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willsanquil
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Posted : Jul 26, 2011 19:54
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Learning to synth the bass from scratch is one of the most essential things about psytrance....
Preset tweaking isn't going to cut it. Nor is it about the chorus or the EQ...I mean, that might have something to do with some extra sheen on top but the vast majority of the character and awesomeness of bass is the patch itself...
so that's what I'm looking for info on, some way to get close to this kind of thin/plucky/tight bass that sounds very different than the standard psy bass. It sounds more squarey than regular...like I thought a square mixed with a saw but then filtered down so you're only hearing a tiny bit of it??
Nope, when I do it...sounds too much like a square or I filter it down to where you can't really tell anymore :\
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Audiosonic
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Posted : Jul 26, 2011 20:12
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My guess is that it's all in the filter. Doesn't sound that special to me.. maybe turn down the filter envelope amount a bit from standard psy, also lower the cutoff freq. This will make the sound pluck, and keep it from having that nice filter attack that we all love so much
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A.Rosengren
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Posted : Jul 26, 2011 20:19
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Sounds like any out of the box bass but less filter envelope compared to other ragga dagga tracks I've heard. Go for 1 saw osc tweak filter envelope and cutoff. Then add sinus osc for better low end and mix accordingly. You can also experiment with adding another osc with square/triangle with low volume and try to get a bit of "plock" sound from it.
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jekvan
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Posted : Jul 26, 2011 20:39
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On 2011-07-26 19:07, kabbalisticvillage wrote:
I dont know much about basses..i use presets and tweak how i see fit but i think i hear chorus on the second track bass.
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On the second track.
Not chorus...More like light touch of formant filter that ain't retrigering.
I used to experiment of puting fabfilter Volcano on my bass,there is present there called "alien talking" or some of this sort.
Made very similar result,bass was the simplest saw wave out of Alien 303,with some tweakage.
If you like ,I can dig the file and post the result to compare.
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Vermeee
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Posted : Jul 26, 2011 23:31
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u could try in surge.... and modulate the phase and/or the width of the oscilator...
i dont thik surge s the fattest to do basses but the oscilators come with nice modulations ...
the bass from the second video seems to be triggerin a phaser effect walkin in a ramp but if u put phasers in ur bass it ll prob destroy it unless u are a doing it layered...
in surge u could do that RAMP phase effect modulatin the PHASE slider from the oscilator...
im stuck with u on that bro..
when we do our basses from scratch it gets too "default" if u know what i mean..
so im tryin to create a bass that even POM will be happy to hear 
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willsanquil
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Posted : Jul 27, 2011 06:22
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On 2011-07-26 20:19, A.Rosengren wrote:
Sounds like any out of the box bass but less filter envelope compared to other ragga dagga tracks I've heard. Go for 1 saw osc tweak filter envelope and cutoff. Then add sinus osc for better low end and mix accordingly. You can also experiment with adding another osc with square/triangle with low volume and try to get a bit of "plock" sound from it.
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Thanks for the response. That was my initial thinking as well, the filter cutoff just seems a bit lower than what I usually hear...but when I try to duplicate it or get near to it it just seems like there's not enough filter env in a not interesting way.
I guess I just didn't put enough time in to hit the sweet spot...gonna try again now and see what I can come up with.
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PoM
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Posted : Jul 27, 2011 17:14
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on the second one the bass have mouvment, sound like there is some resonance and some modulation with velocitie on filter and on resonance(lfo or velocite i would say),there is also some fx on it.
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PoM
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Posted : Jul 27, 2011 17:22
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could be the fx that modulate the sound ^^ |
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PoM
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Posted : Jul 27, 2011 17:40
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On 2011-07-26 23:31, Vermeee wrote:
so im tryin to create a bass that even POM will be happy to hear
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lol mate maybe i have weird taste dunno haven t find much bassline i like in full on ...circuit breakers and their track with same name still one of my favorties but i wouldnt say it sound great , it sound ok ...it dont make me want to take a eq and tweak it... but it s easy to be critical , i don t make better ! |
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Kolishin Methud
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Posted : Jul 27, 2011 19:31
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it sounds like more square wave then saw but i think it uses both though for the fact that it makes it sound a little more "full"? defiantly low pass filter. I think there might be some tweaking on the velocity of the notes of the bass itself. just a shot in the dark on my end! haha 
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Posted : Jul 27, 2011 21:25
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Ask himself in facebook)) |
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