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An Apology to Everone on the Forum
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Trick
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Posted : Nov 5, 2008 19:47:54
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I would like to apologize for my words over the past two weeks
I have recieved numerous pms from people on the forum condemning what I have said but not just that HOW i have said them
I still stand by my points that music was subpar on Friday along with the sound system
However, juding from the reactions on the forum, HOW i got my point across is unacceptable.
Next time i will try and use more constructive language as my whole goal is to only better the nyc and north american trance scene in general
I wish everyone a great day and will refrain from posting here for a while. My apologies for the uneeded attacks and brash languaged used.
United we stand in TRANCE!!!
Boom Bholenath Om Namaha Shivaya Hara Hara Mahadev!!!
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full_on
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Posted : Nov 5, 2008 20:59
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I agree that you should try to write things in a more constructive way.
We, the forum staff, really appreciate your will to change your behave and see it as positive for the whole community.
We welcome criticism here, it is what makes us grow as a community. But it is much more effective when used in a respectful way, for example you can say that "the music was very poorly equalized, and the sound system itself worse than the one in parties X or Y" instead of "it was a fucking shitty sound system, even my mama's stereo is louder than that lame mp3s played there".
Also excessive aggression and bad words are not allowed here.
So please follow your words, the community thank you for this change.
Respect!
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Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
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Posted : Nov 5, 2008 21:28
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nice one Trick!
it takes a big man to see and admit his mistakes!!!
I apologize if you were offended by anything i have wrote in PM and forgive you for the insults 
have a tranquil week 
Yair
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Moonclear
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Posted : Nov 5, 2008 22:16
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My most recent post on the Labels topic was deleted. Yet from Trick survived the following, I emphasize these posts from Trick are STILL on the forum
AND I DEMAND THAT THEY BE DELETED
' i think i will paraphrase:
"hi my name is daya and i am a slave. '
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'maybe we should hang you upside from a mango tree and whip you and show you wat it feels like to enslave people...you my friend are the true slave here and i your king now it is time to get back down on your knees and assume the position oh man i winnnnn '
Therefore, in the face of the deletion of my high level anti crime post, I DEMAND, again, that the obviously criminal and very dangerous meanderings quoted above (since, for all we know, this 'Trick' might be quite serious) be deleted also. Surely my just and reasonable demand is easy to implement. I am in addition thankful that 'Trick' 's death threat was deleted. Furthermore the matter has been reported to the authorities. Now let me get specific here, I am a person of many responsibilities because I know a lot about the mass murder cult situation in trance and I try hard to get across the danger level to the people on the forum while following all rules. Yet moments after I got the whole thing off my chest it was deleted. At the very least the Bill of Rights (freedom of speech, rights of assembly and petition) and the Freedom of Information Act support my cause, and I urge the moderators not to be illegal in deleting my posts. Please. Thank you. Peace. |
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Hero #1
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Posted : Nov 5, 2008 23:11
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On 2008-11-05 22:16, Moonclear wrote:
'maybe we should hang you upside from a mango tree and whip you and show you wat it feels like to enslave people...you my friend are the true slave here
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Trick
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Posted : Nov 5, 2008 23:19
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i dont understand people on this forum
i try and give my opinion
i get criticized
i apologize for using rude language and try and reform
i get criticized
basically what i am getting is that people just want everyone to say that was amazing at every single act
well i am sorry
i do not live in communist russia in the early 19th century
neither does anyone else
moreover i never threatened to kill anyone or do anything violent to anyone as that what not my goal
moonclear maybe the reason why your posts are getting deleted is because you not speak in a logical coherent fashion and thus your point doesnt come across and thus the moderators deem it off topic and delete it
if you want to discuss what you think is right and wrong and how they are mass murder cults in trance culture
start a topic about that otherwise write pms to the orgs
i am tired of writing on here and posting but some people just never learn and i do not know who will teach them basica fundamental lessons of human rights if not for me
it seems like ther mothers never did a good enough job
boom
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Hero #1
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Posted : Nov 5, 2008 23:20
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Psy_Active
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Posted : Nov 6, 2008 00:05
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I don't think it's the people that don't accept criticism. It's people don't tolorate disrespect, Weither or not you like the music. You can say it in a more mature way then you did.. Thats all..
as full on said. Being more specific then "omg the music blows my brain is fried from drugs and bad trance".. Isn't really mature or respectful. Don't really know your age or your background but from the manner you speak it seems really poor... I don't think I'd blame your mother for that though.. or maybe.. Who knows.. Who cares 
I personally think your apology is just another excuse to draw attention to yourself. But we forgive you
BooM !
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Danrennt98
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Posted : Nov 6, 2008 00:43
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I personally think your apology is just another excuse to draw attention to yourself. But we forgive you
BooM !
Miguel
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my thoughts exactly
all you have to say was I had fun at the party it was a good ... my favorites were ____, ____, _____ and I didn't particularly like ______, _____, ______ but that was my own opinion. It'd be awesome to have such and such... come to to new york.. orgz??
saying that _____ is terrible and is not psychedelic and it is not music is offensive and I personally have taken offense to it.. but I won't say anything to argue about it on a party's page because when I go to look at responses to a party.. I don't want to have to sort through bitching and arguements to find a decent review of the party. I didn't make it to that party but I know I would've had a wonderful time. and I would like to hear how it was again without sorting through a single page of arguements.
thanks for the apology but changing your actions means more
Thanks
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Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
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Posted : Nov 6, 2008 00:55
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full_on
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Posted : Nov 6, 2008 01:06
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Moonclear, I deleted one of these posts you "demanded" to be deleted.
Now please let's everyone try to make this psyculture forum a better place.
Respect!
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paradigm
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Posted : Nov 6, 2008 02:29
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great gobs of guano batman what a load of crap !!
1st off, i think while Tricks comments were rude and offensive, he did the right thing by apologizing. Im one of those that pm'd him he sent me a polite response and stepped up publically posted and did the right thing.
Now let me say im deffinatley not the favorite person of alot of posters on here. I call shit as i see it, and dont pull many punches.
Trick, though in a not so diplomatic form did address what he felt were issues with a event. Good for him. Perhaps he could have been more constuctive with his comments, but if you look back at his 1st post, aside from giving the music and sound a lashing he gives a preety good critique of what he liked and didnt at the event. Granted he did go overboard with his thoughts on the music but so what? Ive said far worse on this forum in rants about my opionions on musical styles.
... and some of those rants have reslted in great intelligent conversations, and even some themes and event concepts.
but so what..... Ive said this for years. There is far too much back patting and self congratulating "its all shanti" bullshit in psy trance.Anyone ever wonder why the rest of the edm scene doesnt take us seriously? Everyone feels like always saying how good a event was, how awsome so and so was etc etc. Sometimes acts suck, sometimes (hell more often than not) the event is terrible and the org is some clueless wanker. We need assholes like myself and Trick to motivate people to hopefully do things to at least some type of standard. How can we ever strive for better if any time someone calls us on our shit, everyone gets pissy and defensive.
There are far more crappy events than good ones(whatever your scene may be, thats irrelevant its a numbers game) but by reading forum reviews, youd never know it.
Now again let me re-iterate i dont condone some of Tricks tactics, but for the most part he was pushed. The 1st post though critical and not very diplomatic wasnt that bad, but the flame war started and it just went from there.
Just like the above posts talking about " trying to get attention" Instead of trying to perpetiuate something why not let it go and give the man his do for stepping up to the plate and saying sorry.
ok ive had my rant.... anyone wants to try and go toe to toe with the big dog here, step on up, but lets do the forum the courtesy and do it via pm
and moonclear..... please dear, stop drinking the kool aid
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saintcarl
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Posted : Nov 6, 2008 03:09
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Reiterating what Paradigm say about himself:
im deffinatley not the favorite person of alot of posters on here.
I call shit as i see it, and dont pull many punches.
We need assholes like myself and Trick to motivate people to hopefully do things to at least some type of standard.
anyone wants to try and go toe to toe with the big dog here, step on up
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mubali
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Posted : Nov 10, 2008 10:54
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Carl, you and Paradigm probably already know each other, just don't know it yet.
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Fria Tantrumm
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Posted : Nov 10, 2008 12:38
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This is not kindergarten, and if the guy wants to share the horrible experience he had so be it. Why is it always coool for people to post excessively positive stuff, and the moment one expresses the exact opposite "It's a big boo boo?" We must welcome positivity and negativity with the same demeanour. Both are just different sides of the same coin. Yes Trick could have been more ELOQUENT and DIPLOMATIC but so what if he wanted to use a little rough language??? Did all the ladies get squeamish?? Yes reality bites, the truth..more often than not stinks, and over the years it's been the tendancy of human beings to censor other people when they don't like what the dudes saying.....VOILA this leads to the sorry state of affairs that exist globally. This is not the UN...we are not a bunch of Swiss bankers who need to observe verbal protocol. Flowery verbiage irritates me no end. Let the guy speak. If someone doesn't like it great IN fact when everyone likes something it makes me suspicious. Anyways, It's big of Trick to apologise but I've seen worse posts that didn't create such a hullabaloo. Just go check out the party reviews section, namely the Israeli posts....always a high degree of racism and bad mouthing but thats cool. One small Trick says a little stuff that the majority of the peeps don't liek and the pooor guy has to post an apology!! NOT COOL... I wasn't at this party, I don;t knwo what went down, I don't care really...maybe Trick is saying alot of crap...but nonetheless, some degree of tolerance should be observed.
YES he could have said "the sound was poorly equalized etc etc etc"...but maybe he just had a real shit time and just couldn't believe that something like this was going down and felt like crap and wrote exactly what he felt. SO WHAT??? Whats the difference...both styles of explaining a crappy time lead to the one and only purpose..that of explaining it was a crappy time.
TOLerance people..lets have some tolerance. There can be no light without dark so stop trying to deny the negative cause it would leave the positive meaningless. This works both ways offcourse.
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