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TRapp
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Posted : May 26, 2005 23:52
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it is realeased>?>??? wtf??
Windows What??? it cant be XP? are you sure Elf....???
*very suprised*
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Narcosis
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Posted : May 27, 2005 00:05
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On 2005-05-25 01:18, piXan wrote:
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On 2005-05-25 00:07, Narcosis wrote:
No. AMD 64bit had some problems about music creation that i hear. I buy Intel pentium 3ghz and im very happy.
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can u give some explanation to this " problems in music creation" ???
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Yes. The 64 bit r not tested for all the uses. A friend buy this one and the cpu stucks. Is not stable with music programs. so you pay mopre u get more.
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john_c
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Posted : May 27, 2005 00:22
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you people are all guessing.
do some RESEARCH like I did.
AMD is handedly beating Intel right now in performance with the exception of video editing. Every DAW tester, PC mag, etc will tell you the same thing: Athlon 64 kicks Pentium's ass, comparing chips with the same price range. AND if a stable Windows 64 DOES come out soon, thats just icing on the cake.
AMD easy. |
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Elf
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Posted : May 27, 2005 01:48
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On 2005-05-27 00:22, john_c wrote:
you people are all guessing.
do some RESEARCH like I did.
AMD is handedly beating Intel right now in performance with the exception of video editing. Every DAW tester, PC mag, etc will tell you the same thing: Athlon 64 kicks Pentium's ass, comparing chips with the same price range. AND if a stable Windows 64 DOES come out soon, thats just icing on the cake.
AMD easy.
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I'm sure that 64 bit optimized windows came out.
And i am not guessing.Friend of mine tested amd 64 and p4 3.0 GHz(1MB cache) with multiple applications,and results were exactly the same. |
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UnderTow
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Posted : May 27, 2005 01:58
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I agree with john_c. If you don't know the answer, don't pretend you do. 
Anyway, you can download Windows 64 bit beta here: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/evaluation/default.mspx
If you want to try running an audio application in 64 bit, you can download Sonar 64 beta here: http://www.cakewalk.com/x64/
Next computer I get will be 64 bit for sure. No point in getting 32 bit technology now. It is allready old.
And yes, AMD beats Pentium for floating point calculations since a few years allready. I am not sure if this is still true but not so long ago it was so that Intel had one Floating Point unit. AMD has three.
For music production, AMD is faster.
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Elf
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Posted : May 27, 2005 02:11
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Well,if you want to compete  with knowledge,than go to some specialized forum for cpu.
If you got idea,you will make good music with any cpu! |
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z1P^
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Posted : May 27, 2005 11:54
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sy000321
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Posted : May 27, 2005 17:08
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On 2005-05-25 00:07, Narcosis wrote:
No. AMD 64bit had some problems about music creation that i hear. I buy Intel pentium 3ghz and im very happy.
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wich problems??? if anyone says anything like that they're: a) trying to sell you a pentium b) trying to justify to have spent more for less power
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sy000321
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Posted : May 27, 2005 17:10
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On 2005-05-26 13:01, Elf wrote:
It is released...(64 bit windows)
And,yes,Intel is better solution.
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no it is not 
the 64 is still beta and the intel is more expensive and less powerfull...
please... dont make uneducated guesses
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UnderTow
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Posted : May 27, 2005 17:37
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Interesting if you want to play games on your PC or only encode mp3 but useless for evaluating a DAW CPU.
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sy000321
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Posted : May 27, 2005 17:42
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You know it's very difficult to benchmark something...
It all depends on how a specific piece of software is coded and what are you exactly doing with it...
I have the experience that with a extremly complex FL Studio project that stumbled on a similar Intel 3GHz w/ 1Gb RAM run fine on my XP 2.1 with 256 RAM, and it's a more outdated machine...
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z1P^
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Posted : May 27, 2005 18:33
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what do you mean by DAW CPU?
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sy000321
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Posted : May 27, 2005 19:18
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Digital Audio Workstation Central Processing Unit
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 27, 2005 20:13
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UnderTow
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Posted : May 27, 2005 20:31
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Colin, are you sure about that? I know Intel where jumping all over CakeWalk giving them free developement machines when they announced work on Sonar64 because they where supposed to be the first. But I could be wrong of course ...
For having a general idea of CPU speeds for audio processing, you could have a look here:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=34827
It is tested with Sonar 3 which is a bit old but that is still better and more relevant than a games test.
Verdict so far in decreasing order of speed:
- Dual Opteron 252, 2.6Ghz
- Dual Opteron 250, 2.4Ghz
- Dual Opteron 248, 2.2 Ghz
- Dual Opteron 246, 2.0 Ghz
- Athlon FX53, 2.4 Ghz
- Dual Xeon 3,2 Ghz <------- Slower than a single cpu AMD FX53!
- Athlon64 3400+, 2.2 Ghz
- AthlonFX51, 2.2 Ghz
- Athlon64 3200+, 2.0 Ghz
- Opteron 146, 2 Ghz
- Centrino 2Ghz (2MB L2)
- P4 Extreme 3.2Ghz (2MB L2) <---- finaly an Intel P4 Extreme Edition.
- etc
So at least with Sonar, AMD beats the bejesus out of Intel.
Another reason not to choose Intel is because of the denormal problems. There are still loads of plugins that have denormal problems. This can seriously limit the power of your system.
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