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amd processor question, dual-core vs quad-core?
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psybratt
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Posted : Dec 8, 2008 08:06:08
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i've asked around abit about this, but i still have a tough time choosing between AMD 64 X2 6000+ and AMD Phenom 9550..
i found a deal for both in a motherboard-processor combo for almost the same price..
AMD Phenom 9550 w/ ECS A740GM-M (plain) mobo .. $169
AMD 64 X2 6000+ w/ Gigabyte GA-MA78G-DS3H(nice) Mobo.. $190
if you overlook the $20 difference,
what would you guys recommend? what are your thoughts on this ...
thanks for your help in advance..
peace,
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vegetal
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Posted : Dec 8, 2008 11:02
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For your options id go for the phenom BUT that requires that your sequencer supports multi-core configuration. I have never heard of ECS as a company, personally id go for a mobo with the 790FX/GX chipset and the 750 SB chip from Asus, gigabyte or DFI.
If you can wait til the 18 dec like i do now, there will be the new 45nm Deneb core with lower TDP, higher clockrates, higher OC-capabilities and better performace.
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Kaz
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Posted : Dec 8, 2008 11:04
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Quad-core should be enough to handle all your audio needs for a long time. While the dual-cores should be enough for basically anything you might use today, in 2 years that may very well not be the case.
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neuromantik
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Posted : Dec 8, 2008 11:12
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Forget AMD, go Intel... Just my 0.02
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vegetal
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Posted : Dec 8, 2008 11:54
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orange
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Posted : Dec 8, 2008 12:35
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cos they are better, faster more overclock friendly have bigger cache meaning better audio performance.
generate less heat and have a lower tdp (power consumption)
have better and cheaper mobos support for faster ram.
and the new i7 also have integrated memory controller!
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Kaz
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Posted : Dec 8, 2008 13:18
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On 2008-12-08 12:35, orange wrote:
cos they are better, faster more overclock friendly have bigger cache meaning better audio performance.
generate less heat and have a lower tdp (power consumption)
have better and cheaper mobos support for faster ram.
and the new i7 also have integrated memory controller!
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I have yet to meet a producer that found a quad-core limiting. ANY quad core. You don't need to overclock it. I have yet to meet an audio producer in which DDR2 speed was a bottleneck. ANY DDR2 RAM.
These things will help if you have one machine for audio, internet, gaming, and video editing. If it's audio only, go for the quad-core. Should be enough for years to come.
My tip to any audio producer: your speakers should cost more than your PC. They are more important for music production.
BTW: AMD have an integrated memory controller on all CPUs for over 3 years now. Intel copied that off of them. With all the hype around new technology and high-end PCs, people seem to forget that most of the excitement is just good marketing, not about features you actually need right now. The main advantage for the Intel CPUs is that it is slightly less illegal to run a hackintosh using them  http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222 |
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Tomos
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Posted : Dec 8, 2008 14:34
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BTW: AMD have an integrated memory controller on all CPUs for over 3 years now. Intel copied that off of them.
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Actually, Intel proposed the innovation prior to the AMD chips. It was due to be debuted in a line of server chips that never made it to market. They held off implementing the technology until the chip would actually benefit from the design, apparently that time is now.
I don't think the excitement is marketing. These i7 chips are another great leap forward in speed. True, we're not using every last drop of power now. But the upside is last generations chips are cheaper, and if some immense piece of audio software does come out - we'll be covered.
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orange
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Posted : Dec 8, 2008 14:36
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On 2008-12-08 12:35, orange wrote:
cos they are better, faster more overclock friendly have bigger cache meaning better audio performance.
generate less heat and have a lower tdp (power consumption)
have better and cheaper mobos support for faster ram.
and the new i7 also have integrated memory controller!
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I have yet to meet a producer that found a quad-core limiting. ANY quad core. You don't need to overclock it. I have yet to meet an audio producer in which DDR2 speed was a bottleneck. ANY DDR2 RAM.
These things will help if you have one machine for audio, internet, gaming, and video editing. If it's audio only, go for the quad-core. Should be enough for years to come.
My tip to any audio producer: your speakers should cost more than your PC. They are more important for music production.
BTW: AMD have an integrated memory controller on all CPUs for over 3 years now. Intel copied that off of them. With all the hype around new technology and high-end PCs, people seem to forget that most of the excitement is just good marketing, not about features you actually need right now. The main advantage for the Intel CPUs is that it is slightly less illegal to run a hackintosh using them
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well i never said that quad cores is a bad thing.
and i also never said that intagrated memory controller is something intel did first!
but all in all intels nowadays are faster its been almost 3 years since amd had a cpu that outruns intel!
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Posted : Dec 8, 2008 15:31
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Hey,
I have Intel quad-core, 3 Ghz.
I bought it cos I'm very much into rendering lately (Maya freak), not for my audio needs.
But, since Cubase supports multi-processors I must say that I'm very pleased with how it works.
It's almost impossible to overload the processor, and with at least 10 cpu intensive vsts loaded, it hardly ever goes above 15%.
So, I would recommend to go for the quad, it will certainly make your work less painful and, as it was already said, it will be enough for the next few years.
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XuN
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Posted : Dec 8, 2008 16:13
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+1 for quad core.
Got a quad 2.44GHz and 4GB DDR3 memory.
I can throw almost everything at this baby, without it having hickups.
My bottleneck is my HDD.
Want a 10.000 RPM disc, but that just cost too much.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Dec 8, 2008 16:28
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I have a quad 2.66ghz macpro with 1g or ram. no problems, besides some times getting messages that Albino 3 causes problem with multithread processors.
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Zoopy
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Posted : Dec 8, 2008 23:30
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Hey does Ableton support multi-processors yet? |
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psybratt
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Posted : Dec 9, 2008 03:43
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i found some great deals on DDR2-800 2x2GB RAM and GEForce9500GT 1TB VRAM dual-display and 1TB SATA 3Gb/s. So, I think I am covered on all the peripheral front, just need to pick a decent mobo to go with it.
vegetal .. I like your idea about getting a mobo with 790G and SB750 chipsets..
but also another thing , i am speculating here .. by dec18, with the introduction of deneb processors, the X2 and phenom will be even cheaper, right?
at this point, quad core has slightly higher preference, but it will all come down to what kind of deal i will get for processor & mobo...
but yeah, you're right .. my sound card and speakers cost more than the computer system itself (not including video monitors).. that's a good rule of thumb 
peace,
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Upavas
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Posted : Dec 9, 2008 05:16
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There is talk about FL9 supporting multi-core processing.
From what little I know I would definitely go for a mid quad core size , and hands off AMD, as far as speed is concerned they have not produced anything close to intel for several years now.
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