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Amateurish cubase question....;(

marSpider


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Posted : Jun 7, 2006 00:32
can anyone explain me the use of channels in cubase!?!?! that option avaliable on every under EQ... or their purpose... any,1,2,3... what is the diference?           does the signature for me ---www.acidplanet.com/hypnosense
sideFXed
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Posted : Jun 7, 2006 02:29
answers to such questions are easy to find in the cubase manual. there are many elements in cubase described as channels. midi channel, track channel, fx-channel and so on.

I guess you're asking about insert fx and send fx (that's on the same page as the eq). I'm sure the manual will describe it alot better, but I presume the window you describe allows to place vst effect plugins as an insert effect on the left (means this insert will only affect the current track) or as a send effect on the right side (one effect arrangement useable for all tracks).

send effects are either routings to group channels or fx channels. both these types one can create in the project window, similar to midi and audio tracks

the benefit of send effects is less cpu consumption. you simply share delays and reverbs and can access them from every audio/midi track and set the dry/wet level. also check out the pre/postfader button.

Group channels will allow you to have better control over several elements of your mix. for example route your kick and bassline to a group and control them with a single fader. as previously described use send channels to route a signal to several group channels. again look out for the pre/postfader button.

The order of these inserts and sends are up to you (so there's no difference 1,2,3 etc.). However it's advisable to follow some rules. delays and reverbs are best placed as the last effect. what sounds good is good, experiments are worth the time. and beware, cubase doesn't allow quick rearranging of effects. so plan wisely where you put the effect in place and leave some free slots empty so you can insert more wierd things if your mood begs for more distortion!



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NikC
BeatNik

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Posted : Jun 7, 2006 03:59
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On 2006-06-07 02:29, sideFXed wrote:

The order of these inserts and sends are up to you (so there's no difference 1,2,3 etc.). However it's advisable to follow some rules. delays and reverbs are best placed as the last effect. what sounds good is good, experiments are worth the time. and beware, cubase doesn't allow quick rearranging of effects. so plan wisely where you put the effect in place and leave some free slots empty so you can insert more wierd things if your mood begs for more distortion!




Just thought I'd say:
Insert channels 7 and 8 (i.e. the last two) in Cubase/Nuendo are post-fader inserts...

And therefore come after the cubase channel e.q and the volume fader (in that order) in the signal path...

I tend to put eq inserts on them myself

I use reverbs etc. in the pre-fader inserts (there's wet/dry for a reason ) it means you have more control over the reverbs and delays... otherwise the only extra processing you're going to be able to get on them is from the effects in the master channel, or in the post production stage.          www.myspace.com/beat_nik
marSpider


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Posted : Jun 7, 2006 07:40
thks sidefx but i lost the manual it's not those channel option i was asking but that come really handy, in fact i allready started using the group and fx tracks and about that, the group channel has a direct output or also returns to the vst/audio is that the advantage to fx? ahead.... the channel i was talking about is under the sends... there you can select "any"(channel) or 1,2,........... don't have any idea what is that for?

thks nikc too, so that's why the noise shapers come on then (7,8ch), i was doing it but just to process the previous fx didn't know about pre/post fader inserts           does the signature for me ---www.acidplanet.com/hypnosense
dtd
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Posted : Jun 7, 2006 17:57
yeah, many ppl lost the manual ;-)))))
WAVELOGIX
Wavelogix

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Posted : Jun 8, 2006 09:22
lol , lost the manual !
sideFXed
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Posted : Jun 8, 2006 12:36
thx for pointing that out with slot 7/8... I actually knew that but forgot about it.

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Janux
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Posted : Jun 8, 2006 13:08

an even more ameature question....


Cubase SX 3.0 is more advanced than Cubse SL 3.0 or SE....... but is it a good choice over the other two for psy production....

basically if you could choose any of those 3... (for the same price) which would you get... SX 3.0 right?

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sideFXed
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Posted : Jun 8, 2006 13:31
Janux: I don't think we can explain this better than the steinberg homepage does. google it. However your question was, if it makes any difference for psy; it's all about how you work, what you need.

If you don't wanna throw out much cash check out energy xt. (www.xt-hq.com) very nice solution for midi/audio needs without limitations as sl/se versions of cubase do.

I'd suggest you to inform yourself better about such pricey software. In the end you gotta work with it. try before buy where available.
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Janux
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Posted : Jun 8, 2006 14:24
umm... i have access to any of these software for free... (thats what i meant by 'same price') which is why i was askin

and actually right after posting the prev. post i checked the steinberg page... but thanks.
s.x 3.0

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