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Am I the only one who HATES modern production...
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warlock
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Posted : Aug 23, 2009 06:49
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hey who is this guy anyway.....????????
"Am I the only one who HATES modern production...??" - yes u are...... unless ur also into production, then id hate ur music too...
this guy needs to be tied up along with the guy who stole kashyyyk's profile ... but this guy wiil need a line up of artists - kashyyyk, sushupati, terranoise, evergreen, highko, spiral, cerebral factory, ankur....................... 170 BPM machine fucking gun ........
i think isra trance hires these guys to entertain us... artists are sometimes so depressed that they need somethin to give them a laugh... like braininavat ...
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Alien Bug
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Posted : Aug 23, 2009 16:03
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iNexus
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Posted : Aug 23, 2009 19:54
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i know downtempo is DOWNTEMPO, i just didnt remember the name for the psy version of it.
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soulfood
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Posted : Aug 24, 2009 02:31
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T-S-A
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Posted : Aug 24, 2009 09:01
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On 2009-08-21 10:30:36, braininavat wrote:
seriously, I can't even stand to listen to "modern" psytrance |
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Then don't?
Pretty simple when you think about it.
"We were making castles in the sand: Now we swim in the seas that swept them away" |
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-aeon-
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Posted : Aug 24, 2009 15:12
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maybe The Orb wasn't the best example, but i think most of us can understand the general point, right?
i would interpret it thus:
he doesn't like some aspects of moden psy production (big loud sharp abrasive in-your-face sounds) and prefers more spacey organicy textured approach.
i can subscribe to that a little bit... there is a lot of psy out there that is all loud, all the time. and there is a lot of psy that is really clinical and precise and machine-like... that's not a bad thing, in fact it's an artistic goal for some people. this is electronic music, after all!
but if you listen to something like early ManMadeMan or Shakta then the difference is clear... it's not about old-skool vs. nu-skool either. the Bus album from a few years back is also 'warm' and 'full' sounding... Gappeq's songs often have a shuffley, imprecise roughness to them...
perhaps i'm wrong but that's what i took from the original post!
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Maska
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Posted : Aug 27, 2009 00:10
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On 2009-08-24 15:12, -aeon- wrote:
maybe The Orb wasn't the best example, but i think most of us can understand the general point, right?
i would interpret it thus:
he doesn't like some aspects of moden psy production (big loud sharp abrasive in-your-face sounds) and prefers more spacey organicy textured approach.
i can subscribe to that a little bit... there is a lot of psy out there that is all loud, all the time. and there is a lot of psy that is really clinical and precise and machine-like... that's not a bad thing, in fact it's an artistic goal for some people. this is electronic music, after all!
but if you listen to something like early ManMadeMan or Shakta then the difference is clear... it's not about old-skool vs. nu-skool either. the Bus album from a few years back is also 'warm' and 'full' sounding... Gappeq's songs often have a shuffley, imprecise roughness to them...
perhaps i'm wrong but that's what i took from the original post!
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Exactly, that is what I took from it as well...I personally come from that(the man made man, shakta, hallucinogen LSD, Cosmosis, Transient, Infinity Project, early GMS, good TIP, Blue Room and oh yes, Dimension 5) era. So, I can definitely relate to his complaint? Does he need to be that angry about it? Well, if the music is meaningful to him and now he feels something is missing, yes.....
Should people be so angry at him for speaking his piece? Doesn't seem very Psy like to me, but each person is entitled to their opinion.
Although the production quality was not the greatest at the time, the organic nature of the music was great. It was very spiritual and much of the music these days lacks in that area.....
Not saying it is bad, but if you prefer the older organic, spiritual music that originated in GOA, etc, then you would not be too happy with the mass produced stuff that comes out these days.
I can see the beauty in both, but me personally, I miss the Chakra and Edi, MFG, Shakta and Ping Pong, Quirk music.
It was great and you would just lose yourself in bliss.....
Some of the music now lacks in that area, but there is still great stuff out there...You just have to look for it.
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Inner Demon
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Posted : Aug 27, 2009 02:07
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On 2009-08-24 15:12, -aeon- wrote:
maybe The Orb wasn't the best example, but i think most of us can understand the general point, right?
i would interpret it thus:
he doesn't like some aspects of moden psy production (big loud sharp abrasive in-your-face sounds) and prefers more spacey organicy textured approach.
i can subscribe to that a little bit... there is a lot of psy out there that is all loud, all the time. and there is a lot of psy that is really clinical and precise and machine-like... that's not a bad thing, in fact it's an artistic goal for some people. this is electronic music, after all!
but if you listen to something like early ManMadeMan or Shakta then the difference is clear... it's not about old-skool vs. nu-skool either. the Bus album from a few years back is also 'warm' and 'full' sounding... Gappeq's songs often have a shuffley, imprecise roughness to them...
perhaps i'm wrong but that's what i took from the original post!
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I think you're right and perhaps it boils down to the 'loudness war' which has been discussed to death already.
Some of the music released today is so overcompressed that it looses all depth but its unclear whether that's what he means by 'modern production'.
Other than that, it sounds like he plain doesn't like psytrance, so why listen then?? |
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Andrew
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Posted : Aug 27, 2009 06:00
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Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : Aug 27, 2009 10:06
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braininavat
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Posted : Aug 27, 2009 12:05
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On 2009-08-21 18:33, Colin OOOD wrote:
although it's safe to say that the production was probably done on equipment very few people indeed on here could afford, and by people at the top of their game in the music industy
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meh, I'm glad my post has already got to 3 pages on here but the above was my point EXACTLY and Colin is one of the few people I respect on this board.
As if what is posted above is some kind of fucking NEGATIVE though.
Imagine that, EXPERTS at the top of their game, controlling equipment AMATEURS can't afford blow away production wise what AMATEURS can do on equipment anyone can afford. Gee, maybe its because the very definition of an amateur may as well be "one who doesn't know what the fuck they are doing"...
The inteteresting/pragmatic part of this idea though is ANYONE can afford used 90s hardware right now because no one wants it if you buy it used...Its all practically being given away on ebay at this very moment..
Other genres are going to realize this eventually and drive up the price so why not pystrance, which has always pretended to be the "most intelligent" electronic genre start early before the other drugged brain blown out morons catch up.
If you can't figure out that 10-15 years from now this music will be made on gear that is dirt cheap right now but will be extremely expensive 15 yeras from now well...
your probly just one of the assholes using cracked/pirated software to make your music sound TERRIBLE because you were always an amateur to start with...learning to paint by number off other assholes/pirates was never worth anything as I'm sure you have seen from the money you have gained from ripping off peoples hard work...
fuck you...the bright side is your time is numbered...enjoy it while it last pirate, you have made your own bed.
I don't need to bother reading the other 2 pages, its not rocket science where this topic heads in order to respond to the topic.
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soulfood
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Posted : Aug 27, 2009 12:32
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Hmmm.... Yeah it's not what you say, it's the way you say it, I think. No need for so much anger.
DO try to take it easy.
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Inner Demon
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Posted : Aug 27, 2009 13:46
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On 2009-08-27 12:05, braininavat wrote:
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On 2009-08-21 18:33, Colin OOOD wrote:
although it's safe to say that the production was probably done on equipment very few people indeed on here could afford, and by people at the top of their game in the music industy
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meh, I'm glad my post has already got to 3 pages on here but the above was my point EXACTLY and Colin is one of the few people I respect on this board.
As if what is posted above is some kind of fucking NEGATIVE though.
Imagine that, EXPERTS at the top of their game, controlling equipment AMATEURS can't afford blow away production wise what AMATEURS can do on equipment anyone can afford. Gee, maybe its because the very definition of an amateur may as well be "one who doesn't know what the fuck they are doing"...
The inteteresting/pragmatic part of this idea though is ANYONE can afford used 90s hardware right now because no one wants it if you buy it used...Its all practically being given away on ebay at this very moment..
Other genres are going to realize this eventually and drive up the price so why not pystrance, which has always pretended to be the "most intelligent" electronic genre start early before the other drugged brain blown out morons catch up.
If you can't figure out that 10-15 years from now this music will be made on gear that is dirt cheap right now but will be extremely expensive 15 yeras from now well...
your probly just one of the assholes using cracked/pirated software to make your music sound TERRIBLE because you were always an amateur to start with...learning to paint by number off other assholes/pirates was never worth anything as I'm sure you have seen from the money you have gained from ripping off peoples hard work...
fuck you...the bright side is your time is numbered...enjoy it while it last pirate, you have made your own bed.
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braininavat - you sure know a lot for someone who thinks The Orb is psytrance
You need to get a grip on the whole learning curve thing. I'm afraid there's nowhere little psy expert babies pop out and start making brilliant tunes. Everyone starts out as an amateur and with enough talent, hard work and years of experience, may start calling themselves professional. However, the terms professional and amateur actually for the most part reflects income associated with an activity - whether one does something for a living or as a hobby. If you know anything about the psy scene you'd know that making good money is hard even if you're outstandingly talented - so many artists do not pursue it professionally although we may call them experts.
What the **** is your business coming like this to an open forum that is all about learning and sharing knowledge? Deal with your anger management problems somewhere else.
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its not rocket science where this topic heads in order to respond to the topic.
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Working out what that sentence means may be though.
Now let's make some software tunes |
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PsyGalaXy
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Posted : Aug 28, 2009 22:19
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*eLliSDee*
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Posted : Sep 5, 2009 22:47
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lets all hope MR. Peculiar still produce
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