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Am I the only one who HATES modern production...
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Becktrank
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Posted : Aug 21, 2009 23:33
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On 2009-08-21 22:58, iNexus wrote:
nice one wizack (: .
i thiink what braininavat might hate so much is the new Genres of Psytrance, people say they just make PSYTRANCE, but reality is there are more to that fact,
for Fullon:
Morning (Normally about 140-145 bpm) And basicly more confortable to play in the morning. - Mellower beats than normal
High Tech (Normally about 142-145 bpm) better to play in the afternoon - More electric Beats
Night (Normally about 145-150 bpm) better to play at night - Faster Tempo for a Kickass Night
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Dark (Normally about 145-160 bpm)psychedelic delight where the beats enter your brain without permission
NeoPsytrance (i have no idea)
DownTempo (Generally just Slow Psytrance) a confortable genre to play after 10 hours of Rush, to calm down the brain
and some others out there
i dont worry about that too much. i make what peeps like and what i feel contortable doing.
This is what i BELEVE is pissing this man off so bad
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But it is all ``psytrance`` in the end bro.
I dont like when people divide psytrance like that:
``hightech``, neofullon, popfullon, for me what exist is psytrance and darktrance, I know what is ``darktrance`` when i hear it. But you cant have sure of what is ``hightechpsy`` thats bullshit for me. Maybe Morning trance is ok (like tikal) but at the end is all the same concept, it is all psytrance, the same structure.
And I dont agree with you when you name downtempo as a subgenre of psytrance. Downtempo is downtempo damn it.
And anyway i dont belive that this whay you sayng is what is pissing the man, I think he just dont have what to do, if i dont like some kind of music i just dont hear it wtf lol
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iNexus
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Posted : Aug 21, 2009 23:46
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On 2009-08-21 23:33, becktrank wrote:
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On 2009-08-21 22:58, iNexus wrote:
nice one wizack (: .
i thiink what braininavat might hate so much is the new Genres of Psytrance, people say they just make PSYTRANCE, but reality is there are more to that fact,
for Fullon:
Morning (Normally about 140-145 bpm) And basicly more confortable to play in the morning. - Mellower beats than normal
High Tech (Normally about 142-145 bpm) better to play in the afternoon - More electric Beats
Night (Normally about 145-150 bpm) better to play at night - Faster Tempo for a Kickass Night
There is
Dark (Normally about 145-160 bpm)psychedelic delight where the beats enter your brain without permission
NeoPsytrance (i have no idea)
DownTempo (Generally just Slow Psytrance) a confortable genre to play after 10 hours of Rush, to calm down the brain
and some others out there
i dont worry about that too much. i make what peeps like and what i feel contortable doing.
This is what i BELEVE is pissing this man off so bad
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But it is all ``psytrance`` in the end bro.
I dont like when people divide psytrance like that:
``hightech``, neofullon, popfullon, for me what exist is psytrance and darktrance, I know what is ``darktrance`` when i hear it. But you cant have sure of what is ``hightechpsy`` thats bullshit for me. Maybe Morning trance is ok (like tikal) but at the end is all the same concept, it is all psytrance, the same structure.
And I dont agree with you when you name downtempo as a subgenre of psytrance. Downtempo is downtempo damn it.
And anyway i dont belive that this whay you sayng is what is pissing the man, I think he just dont have what to do, if i dont like some kind of music i just dont hear it wtf lol
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Exaaaaaaaaactally, thats why i said i dont worry to much about it and i claimed to THINK thats why braininavat is pissed
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telekom youth
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Posted : Aug 22, 2009 00:26
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Alex Paterson's Equipment
Akai S3000XL and S2000 samplers
Arp 2600 synthesizer
Korg Electribe EA-1 synth module
Korg Electribe ER-1 drum module
Korg Monopoly synthesizer
Korg MS2000 synthesizer Mac G4/450
Red Sound Systems Darkstar synthesizer
Red Sound Systems Federation effects module
Roland SH-101 synthesizer
Soundcraft Spirit mixer
Vestax CDX25 Twin CD player
Vestax MW3000 mixer
Two Vestax PDX-D3 turntables
Found that in an article in remix magazine. As much as I don't agree with your opinion on modern psytrance sounding like shit. I think that it is kind of unfair to compare veterans like Alex Patterson and all the early dance music sounds to modern dance music. Hell back in 89', 90' you had to have a gigantic room full of hardware mixers, 5 303's, a rack full of compressors, synths, samplers, all that jazz, nowadays its become much cheaper for an artists to write tracks, and with the internet easier to promote himself. I do believe Orblivion was mixed on a computer, if thats what you're asking, and yes, I think it is beautifully put together, as is Orbus Terrerum. You should listen to their new album and compare it to their old stuff, I think you'll hear quite a big difference in overall production sound. I believe Alex did an album with Juno Reactor didn't he? I've never heard it personally, but I guess thats some sort of link to the genre.
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Nurion
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Posted : Aug 22, 2009 00:36
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And I dont agree with you when you name downtempo as a subgenre of psytrance. Downtempo is downtempo damn it.
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x2 -.- |
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Ascension
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Posted : Aug 22, 2009 00:44
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On 2009-08-22 00:36, Nurion wrote:
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And I dont agree with you when you name downtempo as a subgenre of psytrance. Downtempo is downtempo damn it.
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x2 -.-
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There's a lot of different types of downtempo though. I think he meant to say psychill. http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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Obelizk
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Posted : Aug 22, 2009 01:23
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What I thought of when I read braininavat's post was that music like The Orb is more experimental which is the heart of psychedelia.
I have a feeling he doesn't like variations on 16th note basslines and calling it psy. Taking the genre at face value with the intention of people being put into a trance with psychedelic music, psytrance could be seen as anything that is experimental with repetitive patterns and beats.
I don't share this opinion, but it is possible that is where he is coming from. Orb isn't like modern psy or anything I would label psychedelic trance, but it is very experimental and 'different.' Putting it in the psychedelic trance genre could make sense if you see it in one light as opposed to another, but it doesn't really make sense in the way we all see where Psytrance is right now.
He could have explained it better, and this is the impression I got out of what he wrote.
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Alien Bug
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Posted : Aug 22, 2009 01:39
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Aug 22, 2009 01:43
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Inreal
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Posted : Aug 22, 2009 02:05
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| While every single "modern" psy album sounds like a wanker punching you in the face with a 16th note machine gun at 145bpm...and a pocket full of pirated waves plugins they stole for free. |
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I'll take that as a compliment, thank you.
If you want to have a discussion about orb's production, don't bash people that like 145bpm machine guns and subsequently ask them not to reply; to me it's much like punching a guy in the face and asking him not to punch back.
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realtime
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Posted : Aug 22, 2009 06:14
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check out: mac mavis - gatefinder
... is an another analogue masterpiece.
it's better to make jokes about things you
do not understand, instead of hating them.
well ... have to re-load my machinegun
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bukboy
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Posted : Aug 22, 2009 09:39
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Wow! I dig the neo-hippism. Been away for too long. |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Aug 22, 2009 13:42
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naga
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Posted : Aug 22, 2009 22:18
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Whatever sounds cool... please remove these kind of posts, em are just killing a large piece of good spirit n creative talk... this stuff ruins our forum and is the reason many talented producer with many good ideas wont bother to post anything anymore...
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Aug 22, 2009 23:05
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negative vibes destroy always a great and successfull psychedelia.
And formulas ,categorizations as well as expectation of the same is ok but to respect others should be basic.
I think it can be helpful to have a list to regard of how not to sound the same when looking at any categorizations with figures or some cliches.
Atleast it can be a try worth.
To break limits can give divine impulses when done from heart ,no matter how many people dislike.
I think good music is as subjecitve as always very personal and pretty individual or different.The more different the more own.Even if its only the intention.
It can only grow.
And there always be a start point just follow your vision even if the path is endless or hard to be satisfied even a bit of what you wuld like.
I also think the most artist who release albums are truely loving what they do since there always be their soul in it and they are agreeing with self to manifest it.
And to critisize is eazy but to make it better much harder.
Also me agree with better keep silent and try to do what you would like to hear by own.Maybe you can satisfy one day your inner vision and than no need on any critisizm on others or on all including yourself.
Let the others enjoy what they are and try it by own if you miss some love in music that you could identify with.If old or new whatever.
I'm sorry for your hate.
peace
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orange
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