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Alternatives for Sylenth1 ?
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Drishti
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Posted : Aug 18, 2013 18:50
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Aug 18, 2013 19:22
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On 2013-08-18 18:50, Drishti wrote:
I just had a look at Diversion:
http://dmitrysches.com/diversion
It sounds fantastic. It is very hard on the CPU, though. Too hard for me, so I won't buy it before I get a faster computer.
Also Lush-101 is incredible. I bought it, just to realize that it is even harder on the CPU.
http://www.d16.pl/lush-101
Having said this, Sylenth1 is a very good VST. Nothing wrong with it. I love it.
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I think you have the Oversampling thing on Diversion and some kind of quality option on Lush to. Not sure if it has the preview quality option and render quality - like Diva does - but you can probably get by using it. Some presets make use of the 4 layers so that's quite demanding, doesn't mean you can't use it for sound design and some leads imo. But yeah! Some new instruments are really starting to use the new processors to their limits! But the sound sort of makes up for it! |
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OzMike
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Posted : Aug 19, 2013 07:05
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Was looking for something myself, gonna get the Lush101 I think. It'll keep me entertained until I've saved enough for Sub Phatty hardware synth 
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PoM
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Posted : Aug 19, 2013 20:23
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diversion sound remind me more waldorf stuff personaly but i haven t spend much time with it..maybe it s not a good impression?
not mentioned but you could also look for zeta 2 , different sound but nice too..
massive could be a aternative for some sounds too .. |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Aug 19, 2013 21:29
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On 2013-08-19 20:23, PoM wrote:
diversion sound remind me more waldorf stuff personaly but i haven t spend much time with it..maybe it s not a good impression?
not mentioned but you could also look for zeta 2 , different sound but nice too..
massive could be a aternative for some sounds too ..
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I mentioned the "cakewalk" stuff! I agree with you: sylenth seems to be good at producing Roland like sounds - even though it doesn't claim to be emulating anything in particular you can get nice 303 sounds, nice juno like supersaw leads and the squelchy and acid arps of the old age. Lush 101 can do this as well, does it even better to my ears, the filters sound much better. If a perfect emulation of the SH-101 is enough and big cpu hit is a concern, then Tal Audio's new incarnation of the 101 is a must - also has got the zero latency feedback filters that sound a lot better, much more realistic then sylenth - even though sylenth sort of makes up for it with the filter stage drive thing.
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Aug 19, 2013 21:32
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And Diversion is a lot of bang for the buck! Have you seen the modulation options on that thing? And the complexity of the oscillators? It's got "random" as a source, like the Access Virus does and all the FX parameters are choosable as destinations for mod - again, like the Virus. Nothing short of a breat and butter synthesizer if you ask me, very underrated so far - being from a small company and all.
But make no mistake about it, it sounds wonderful! |
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Djones
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Posted : Aug 19, 2013 22:05
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On 2013-08-19 20:23, PoM wrote:
diversion sound remind me more waldorf stuff personaly but i haven t spend much time with it..maybe it s not a good impression?
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Well now you mention Waldorf I think have to agree on that, though I haven't spend much time with Waldorf Largo for example
Diversion's filters seem very strong and the overdrive sounds great.
One of my favorite sounds with Diversion (not that I'm using this synth all that frequent) is just a simple single saw osc run thru its 48db bp filter and sweep it all over the place with any modulation source you like.
I think think it even beats the squelch king Nord Lead, in that regard
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WhySoLazy?
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Posted : Aug 20, 2013 17:19
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On 2013-08-18 13:35, frisbeehead wrote:
yeah, the inspiration you get from HW beats anything! you're in for a ride for sure!
on topic, if you feel that way about Massive, just get that one! something you know good and feel confortable with is a weapon on the arsenal and those are always keepers!
and if you're after something to replace sylenth, get it also! those two! sylenth works great on my system, no issues at all, you shouldn't really worry about that.
guess what really matters is stuff that inspires you and that you know well or feel like taking the time to know better. if you get the sounds you want from them, it's a no brainer 
you won't be missing Monark much with a Slim Phatty coming, uh? having a Moog as a first... you may have noticed that you have just changed your future by doing that. you may end up in a room full with blinking lights and cables hanging from everywhere eheh
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Yeah , I'm still not into modular stuff , but a little afraid of the addiction to analog 
Anyway I'll just look for Zebra2/Diversion/massive second hand on KVR and will just use the demo version of Sylenth for basses , anyway its not for "commercial" use |
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PoM
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Posted : Aug 20, 2013 22:01
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On 2013-08-19 21:32, frisbeehead wrote:
And Diversion is a lot of bang for the buck! Have you seen the modulation options on that thing? And the complexity of the oscillators? It's got "random" as a source, like the Access Virus does and all the FX parameters are choosable as destinations for mod - again, like the Virus. Nothing short of a breat and butter synthesizer if you ask me, very underrated so far - being from a small company and all.
But make no mistake about it, it sounds wonderful!
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yeah it sound good specially with fx, kind of synth i like for digital kind of sound , soundscapes for example the synthesis possibly make it really good...didnt try it much but it s really good option for drums , kicks..
too much good stuff.. |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Aug 20, 2013 23:47
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On 2013-08-20 22:01, PoM wrote:
too much good stuff..
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great times |
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nutrinoland
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Posted : Aug 22, 2013 18:28
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Zebra 2 is really good.... |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Aug 23, 2013 01:14
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On 2013-08-22 18:28, nutrinoland wrote:
Zebra 2 is really good....
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yep, plus if you get it now you can get Zebra 3 for only 30 when it's ready. or if you buy the Zebra HZ (the special one used on the batman score with Diva's filters on it and a special mod mapper), the update for 3 will be free...
for such nice instruments, it's a real still.
however, if you're after simple synthesizers (you mentioned you didn't want to learn the ones in komplete) it's still got a big learning curve included, even though it's one of the most deep instruments out there. you can do virtually anything with it! |
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The Bap
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Posted : Aug 23, 2013 14:56
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Aug 23, 2013 17:28
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about that: this guy surely has the money to pay for what he uses!
my take on it is: if it's down to a "try before buy, more like try before die" thing, if someone lives in a country or situation where some spare money to invest on instruments and host software doesn't come by easily. or in cases where the person doesn't even know if he's actually getting somewhere with it, then it's kind of ok - even though there's plenty of free stuff floating around even from the best developers that are very interesting.
When we're serious about music and think of making some money with it, paying those who supply the tools is the normal thing to do! And it shows you're commited to actually learn and take full advantage of something, instead of running a huge collection of plug-ins whose features you've only scratched the surface of many times!
Plus, unlike Waves Audio (for example), not every software company dedicated to audio is making a lot of money and a lot of effort and pashion goes into it! Some of these companies are run by three guys alone! Others by one guy only - like Diversion synthesizer, for example (I think).
So, in the sense that people who'd never have the money for nice software with lots of features that allows them to use their creative potential, I think this economy is hard to live in and that piracy actually presents the only opportunity for them to learn and do something. Also the case with other software, like Adobe - this huge monopoly on everything multimedia on computers - that's got huge prices that leave more people out then inside the realm of possibly aquiring a valid license. I'm one for free knowledge and information sharing and all of that. But also have grown to like some of the brands and companies involved in this audio thing and like to support the things I really like the most! |
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The Bap
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Posted : Aug 23, 2013 18:02
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Plus, if you earn $15 million like Aoki did last year then $200 is not a lot to ask for a cool-assed synth like Sylenth, eh?
At least he'll never be able to cry about music piracy again! I wonder how common it is for "superstars" to be using cracks?
https://soundcloud.com/craic-addict |
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