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assaf_zo
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Sep 19, 2006 14:18
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no no no.... plus u can not agree with me but other cats here .... they know whats up !!
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Cardinals Cartel
Black Machine
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Posted : Sep 19, 2006 14:44
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Whats up .. ? Ill tell you whats up .. You are up so when u will determine and decide to wake up and understand and read your own specific words in here so maybe all will look different , By now you are in to hallucination and delusion ..
Stop answering me cause i dont want to be a part of this madness foolishs celebration .
Talk about yourself , say : "Im using other tunes , Im using other ideas" And not as an collective or generalization , Next time think before post those kishkushim ! . Thank you ! . |
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assaf_zo
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Sep 19, 2006 14:50
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nobody put a gun on ur head and told u to write the shit u did...
and here is a descssion so if u do like it .... f%ckoff
really man dont take it to much seriosly
yes i know the beatels made it ur way ... but they made it... u did not, and not all of us got the gift of music
if i found Sound ON CM article i would let u eat ur heart but i cant find it music got structure not to many ppl know it... the can see it in other work period!!
i know i do... but whatever !!!
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Cardinals Cartel
Black Machine
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Posted : Sep 19, 2006 14:54
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Ppls like you are makes me think again and wonder of ever puting my works & demo's or any other tracks (Even my olders ones) in the net or here in this site again . |
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assaf_zo
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Posted : Sep 19, 2006 15:00
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dude thats wrong !!! and if u understood me that way im sorry... but didnt wanted to go that way
im original as it gets i will send u one of my tracks someday and u will enjoy !!!
again nothing personal
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Freeflow
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Posted : Sep 19, 2006 15:56
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wake up both of you!
kiss and make up 
with the dynamic you guys have i bet we could get a orginal track!
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piXan
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Sep 19, 2006 16:54
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On 2006-09-19 11:47, djzed wrote:
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On 2006-09-19 07:19, piXan wrote:
fuck structures!!! lets destroy them all and just flow with the feeling and what ur mind and soul wants to go. "exterminate all rational thoughts"(Burroughs). just keep it flowing, never end and rethink, just create . well thats what i do and enjoy. my partner is into structures so i let that to him,, haha... i just spit out my brain on the envelopes.
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Can you please send me your best track, so I can prove to you that it's structure is a rip-off of someone else's.
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hell i wont. u might rip it off urself!!
haha. u can find them at:
www.kascabell.com
cant wait to see which clone i am!!
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other_reality
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Sep 20, 2006 15:15
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Come on guys, I mean come on...If you want to make music just do it (put the nike logo here)
Word Play:
Surely producers "copy" each other. Sometimes deliberately, some other times subconsiously. That's how the genres are created anyway. Would we listen to progressive psytrance if all were using only ideas of their own ? No. Or any other genre for that matter. As many ideas as you may have, as original as they may be, they usually have to be described as something. They should belong somewhere. Another important notice is that the music you mostly enjoy, whatever the genre or style, is always mixed in your mind and the result is something yours. For example I enjoy progressive rock of the 70's, krautrock, funk, postrock, dub ,psytrance and ambient, and yet, not all of it, but only some bands or artists I feel i have a better connection with. My own music will carry stuff from all of these, so it will be a mixture of what I like. It is called inspiration, and this is the way it works.
Copying on the other hand, is an EXACT replica of something. For example, a fake painting, usually done to cheat and deceive, and well, get that euros. If you do that, you mess with copyrights and when revealed you deal with peoples disregard, to say the least. If however, you do that in the comfort of your home studio for yourself, as an experiment, and it really helps you finding out stuff, well great, just do it (logo again), but you do realise that it isn't art or expression, merely an exercise for yourself alone.
Bring yourselves into the light
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psychotic_neuroscientist
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Posted : Sep 20, 2006 17:48
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Yeah it's gotta be said, the flood of total hacks out there just releasing anything and everything as quickly as they can, with a quantity over quality attitude, is surely creating a high noise environment which is manking it harder to locate good artists. Funny how it correlates with warez'd VSTis coming of age, because if someone is too lazy to go to a shop and drop $1500 on a synth, they are probably too lazy to learn how to make good tracks before seeking to glorify themselves and get attention.
The best thing you can do if you are interested in trance or any sort of music is to experiement and ask yourself honestly if you LOVE the act of experimenting and writing, if so, then take 5 years to just fuck around, and THEN put something out.
There are no tips you can give to people who want to exploit music and everything it stands for just to glorify themselves (not saying that's you.) Now if copying other people is fun, then do it, and enjoy it, and don't worry about originality. But be honest and realistic about whether or not what you're making is worthy of release. Because most CDs I am handed these days are crap. People need to develop some critical perspective and overcome their blind view of themselves as infallible. Humility and self-critique improves people, err on the side of neurosis.
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 No... no more scientists, no more laboratories, no more experiments, I thought you`d be able to understand that. No more! |
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Freeflow
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Posted : Sep 20, 2006 19:26
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psychotic_neuroscientist - i dont think 5 years is enough....
if you truly want to make something original, take a step outside your self... and then take a deep step inside your self..... and search your inspiration in all kinds of places.
we are colored by our surroundings, face these surroundings and ask your self, why do i do this..
do i have something to say or should i shut up! 
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piXan
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Posted : Sep 20, 2006 21:26
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time is defenetily not a desicive factor. have much more than 5 years making music and i still not ready.
But i know some people who are gifted and maybe it took them only 2 years to get "there" i mean pro in everysense, original and quality both musical and production-wise. And many of them use vst asi ido. Everyone who is not closed minded do it.
That "co-rrelation" between lack of quality in music and the development of plugins is absolute shit.
Yes many people has more access to making music in their own CPU on their bedroom, so whats wrong with that??? Sure there is more music out and obviously as this grows there is more bad music. but there is also more good music!!! ive heard amazing albums produced in bedroom studios and made partially and/or completely wih software and minimum hardware.
Also there are many people with lots of gear, hardware synths and racks and never EVER produce anything worth more than a listen. I know many of them. And im not talking just about the psy genre also the house and chillout producers.
Sure there are many shit software for producer wannabees, and many think that if they got a producer software pack and a CPU, they got themselves a studio, which is absolut shit also. But there are as well many quality software. Some of the oldest school producers at least use some, if not traded many of their harware for software counterpart.
So its not about the time or the money (equipment)
Simply some people are more gifted than others, and can do with less time and less money what some peoplw will never do anytime with any amount of gear. Sure thats hard thing to accept for some people.
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Freeflow
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Posted : Sep 20, 2006 21:46
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piXan - i dont know if i can accept that 
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assaf_zo
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Sep 21, 2006 00:12
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other reality - thanx 4 making my words clearer
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Pavel
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Posted : Sep 21, 2006 00:26
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On 2006-09-03 20:25, sideFXed wrote:
on a side note, colin I think you're hot
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Pavel
Troll
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Posted : Sep 21, 2006 00:35
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On 2006-09-12 20:34, Colin OOOD wrote:
Bone_Flute, there are answers to all the points you made but in the interests of not wanting to seem argumentative I'll just answer one here:
"5) I read in this forum a good advice
2 break the rules u have 2 know the rules"
The only rule in psytrance used to be "Kickdrum on the beat". What happened to that incredible simplicity that gave rise to such intricate results? Make your own rules. Innovate. Don't be afraid for your experiments not to work, as you learn something new each time. The way you start your creative career has a great influence on the way it progresses - you think Posford started out trying to make tracks that copied someone else's structure? YOU could be the one to 'blow the scene wide open' - but that'll never happen if you're content to make tracks that sound like someone else.
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I am going to add that the best trance music i hear nowadays are by people that listen to very few trance music themselves.
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